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Tammy's Apartment #9

Posted: 5 Dec 2009 6:19 pm
by Bill Moran
Who was the steel player on Tammy's first recording of Apartment #9 ? My guess, Jimmy Day. :)

Posted: 5 Dec 2009 6:27 pm
by Richard Sinkler
I always thought it was Pete Drake, but I am probably wrong.

Posted: 5 Dec 2009 6:49 pm
by Bent Romnes
I thought it was Lloyd Green, but Richard could possibly be right...

Posted: 5 Dec 2009 7:26 pm
by Rick Campbell
I think Pete with Tammy, and Lloyd did the super good break on Johnny Paycheck's cut.

:)

Posted: 6 Dec 2009 2:26 am
by Walter Stettner
For those who want to compare different versions of the song, I have posted four tracks on my website. Here are the versions by Johnny Paycheck and Charley Pride (with Lloyd on Steel)), Bobby Austin (w/Ralph Mooney) and Tammy Wynette (w/pete Drake).

http://www.lloydgreentribute.com/Austri ... /Forum.htm

Have fun listening!

Kind Regards, Walter

Posted: 6 Dec 2009 3:22 am
by Ray McCarthy
I think Dave Hartley's steel playing on his version is second to none. Check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHLHosfNJRs

Posted: 6 Dec 2009 11:02 am
by Kevin Hatton
The genius playing that was Pete Drake. This song is a study for steel players in when NOT to play. Pete Drake creates anticipation here.

Posted: 6 Dec 2009 3:17 pm
by Jamie Lennon
Well heres Tammys daughters version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg6EwjYepPo

Posted: 6 Dec 2009 6:26 pm
by Ray Minich
Neat stuff! Thanks.

Posted: 7 Dec 2009 2:55 am
by Richard Sinkler
Lloyd was my 2nd choice. But, as I remember, Pete was doing most of Tammy's stuff at that time. Pete was a master of what and when to play and not to play. Nothing flashy, but always appropriate.

Posted: 7 Dec 2009 10:30 am
by Dave Burr
Walter, Thanks for posting the 4 different versions for comparison. All great, no doubt!! What is the chronological order in which they were recorded?

Johnny Bush did a great version of it too... actually, he did "two" great versions of it. The latest was on the Johnny Paycheck tribute and had Lloyd playing it more beautifully than ever. I also have the earlier cut on one of my computers at home, but never did know for sure who played the steel it.

Thanks again!

Posted: 7 Dec 2009 11:54 am
by Walter Stettner
I think Bobby Austin and Johnny Paycheck were first, followed by Charley Pride and Tammy Wynette. George Jones also did a version in the early 70s, plus the Johnny Bush versions Dave had mentioned.

Kind Regards, Walter

Posted: 7 Dec 2009 2:03 pm
by Dave Burr
Thanks Walter!

Posted: 7 Dec 2009 6:34 pm
by Charley Dickason
I really have to agree with Ray, Dave does as good or better than anyone on the four songs in Walter's post (yes, including Lloyd Green). I bet Lloyd listens to Dave's Utube videos and thinks to himself: "wow, I wish I was that good!!!"

Posted: 7 Dec 2009 9:11 pm
by Joe Goldmark
As I recall, Lloyd says that he played on the Tammy version, in the Pete Drake style.

Joe

Posted: 7 Dec 2009 10:24 pm
by Richard Sinkler
As I recall, Lloyd says that he played on the Tammy version, in the Pete Drake style.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Posted: 8 Dec 2009 8:11 am
by Chris LeDrew
Posted at the request of Lloyd Green, regarding the information and comments on this thread:
Lloyd Green wrote: I have never said I played on Tammy Wynette’s “Apartment #9”, nor would I claim ownership of any steel part I did not record. Pete Drake was the steel player of note on that one.

Regarding Charley Dickason’s post in the same thread; You’d lose that bet fellow, although David Hartley is a good steel player. I never wanted nor needed to play or sound like anyone except myself and my own ideas. And keep in mind you were listening to clips recorded more than 40 years ago. If you listen to the song as I recorded it with Johnny Bush about 5 years ago you’ll hear a vast difference in sound and technology….and playing.

Lloyd Green

Posted: 8 Dec 2009 8:29 am
by Greg Wisecup
:whoa:

Posted: 8 Dec 2009 9:10 am
by Mike Sweeney
There are several great recorded versions of this song. A lot of them are mentioned and as Lloyd said the version he did with Bush on the Paycheck Tribute c.d. is great. But I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the Bush cut from the late '60's with Jimmy Day. His way of approaching the song is worth giving a listen. I had the pleasure of playing on a Tammy tribute album a few years ago and did my best to get the Pete thing down and yes we cut Apt. #9. It is my favorite thing that Pete ever did.
This is one of those tunes that would be interesting to find out how many times it's been cut and by who.

Posted: 8 Dec 2009 9:18 am
by Kevin Hatton
Charley Dickason, on what planet do you live? I believe David Hartley would highly disagree with you. Lloyd Green IS a living legend. Thanks for that post Chris.

Posted: 8 Dec 2009 9:19 am
by Frank Freniere
Thanks, Chris - it's always great to hear from Lloyd.

Posted: 8 Dec 2009 10:08 am
by Joe Goldmark
I stand corrected. I believe I confused it with D.I.V.O.R.C.E. Chris, the next time you check in with Lloyd, ask him about that one. I'm pretty sure there was a prominent Tammy Wynette hit that we all assumed was Pete Drake, that was actually Lloyd Green playing in that style.

Joe

Posted: 8 Dec 2009 6:46 pm
by Richard Sinkler
Joe,

I think I remember reading that Lloyd did play on D.I.V.O.R.C.E and it was the first time the "F" lever was recorded. But, could be wrong on that too.

Posted: 10 Dec 2009 5:08 am
by Ken Byng
I always felt that Pete Drake's intro on Wynette's Apartment #9 epitomised the 'ShoBud sound' from that era, as well as being perfectly executed.

Good to see Lloyd clarifying matters straight from the horses mouth.

Posted: 10 Dec 2009 5:51 am
by Rick Campbell
Besides being such a great great player, something else I like about Lloyd is that he calls it like he sees it and doesn't wear the Rose Colored Glasses that are so common here on the forum.

Style is what seperates guys like Lloyd, Pete Drake,John Hughey, Dicky Overbey, Buddy Emmons, Weldon Myrick, and some others, from the everything sounds alike, first string raise overuse, crowd. I won't mention any names here, because I don't keep up with the new players enough to know who's doing it, but you know who you are. I guess that's your style, but it gets kind of old to me after a couple of songs. :)


:)