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George Crickmore
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Posted 7 Nov 2009 5:10 am |
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I think country music has turned into a absolute joke.
It seems all you have to have is a guitar to get into the Opry these days.
Maybe good ol Jamey Johnson will be able to restore some order to country music.
Who else feels this way about this FIASCO in Trashville?
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Sonny Priddy
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Posted 7 Nov 2009 7:47 am Opry
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| Boy You Got It Grorge I'm with You. SONNY. |
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c c johnson
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Posted 7 Nov 2009 7:50 am
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| ditto!!!! cc |
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Ray McCarthy
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New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 8 Nov 2009 4:59 am
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It sure seems that Music Row has sold out to whatever they think will sell for a week or two. A lot of the stuff seems to be from a formula of some kind--the first few lines kind of soft, maybe just a guitar with the singer, then BAM! The noise begins! Distorted guitars and a drummer trying to pound holes in his drums. Mundane, boring melodies, songs that are forgotten as quickly as they were written.
But it's not all bad--we still have George Strait, Allen Jackson and a few others who seem to be able to keep getting on the air with country music--kind of "fathered in" i guess. Also, there's a lot of good old country still being made by the likes of Patty Loveless and Tanya Tucker and others, that just doesn't get on the radio.
Chin up-there's still hope! |
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George Crickmore
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Myrtle Beach South Carolina, USA
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Posted 8 Nov 2009 5:12 am
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| Ray McCarthy wrote: |
It sure seems that Music Row has sold out to whatever they think will sell for a week or two. A lot of the stuff seems to be from a formula of some kind--the first few lines kind of soft, maybe just a guitar with the singer, then BAM! The noise begins! Distorted guitars and a drummer trying to pound holes in his drums. Mundane, boring melodies, songs that are forgotten as quickly as they were written.
But it's not all bad--we still have George Strait, Allen Jackson and a few others who seem to be able to keep getting on the air with country music--kind of "fathered in" i guess. Also, there's a lot of good old country still being made by the likes of Patty Loveless and Tanya Tucker and others, that just doesn't get on the radio.
Chin up-there's still hope! |
Well I will agree on George Strait but as far as Alan Jackson goes he lost me when he started doing music with Jimmy Buffet. To be honest George Strait's latest CD is a little weak except for a couple of songs.
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Joe Casey
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Posted 8 Nov 2009 7:29 am
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| Now a days its not the Artist who can pick and choose what to record..Even so if they could would it sell like whats selling now?..I am someone who made a living with Country music..Along the way each year we could see changes and when the audience was changing those that wanted to still work had to change somewhat...Everything changes..For 20-30 years we had the same followings, the venues ,the clubs were plenty and had full bands..Thats a good run in my book..Now its up to someone else to make a living and doing what the trend is, insures that..Good bone assed Country writers are gone,replaced by machine like repeitive melody lines and forget the old ryming styles...But thats whats selling..Thats what the majority of those that pay want...Theres still traditional around,Not as much but on the internet and even in Nashville there is what any seek...The world has changed even if I haven't but then again the world wasn't made for just me... |
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Cass Broadview
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Posted 8 Nov 2009 9:40 am
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A lot of people make a living playing country music that don't play that gawd awful agony being forced upon us by top 40 country radio stations today {forgive me please theresa}. Good...and i emphasise Good music of any style, is not a trend, or a changing fad. Peoples' taste in music never changes, never. Just ask the the author of this thread or forum member "Bama Charlie" bless his heart dyk. People will consume what is fed to them, and music is no different. A new burger comes out for McDonalds, it sells, or it's gone. Same with nashville. Checked out the price of opry tickets lately? To hear this stuff, and look at guys with dirty, torn britches, and tee shirts? ummm..not i. The beatles are still selling on contemporary adult stations, and i hear yet another beatle cd set is in the works. Elvis, still a hot sell. I enjoy playing Bob Will's and Asleep At The Wheel music, just as much as my attempt at Bach. So i can't be told good..there is that word again, good music comes and goes. I personally enjoy a quiet evening at home with mozart, handel, hayden and 18th century clavichord,harpsichord,and viola. Hasn't changed since the baroque instrumental era circa 1760. Money is the name of this game, and nashville is the playing field. We either listen to it or move on, but we never...as true country music lovers make excuses for it. True many of the great song writters such as Harlan Howard are gone today, but what is needed is incentive for the remaining to put out a true country song, i think the last classic {style} country song i have heard in ages was LeAnn Rimes' "Blue". That song had class, and it was "Good" country music. I dare say everyone reading this can hum the melody to "Blue". Perhaps just a lost art? I apologize for even posting in this thread, i most generally stay out of opinionated threads such as this one, as someone's feelings are always hurt. Not my intentions. Enjoy playing your music regardless of style. It is a gift, and we are glad you share it with others. God Bless, Cass Broadview  |
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Cass Broadview
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Posted 8 Nov 2009 10:03 am
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I don't mean to double post here. But as a disclaimer to my above post. I want it made perfectly clear, that i do not take away any credit to such great players as Mr Paul Franklin and other active Nashville recording sidemen who play behind todays top country artist. Mr Franklin is one of the worlds most talented pedal steel guitarist in the world. At the same time...Mr Reese Anderson is one of the worlds top steel guitarist as well, and a steel guitar hall of fame member. His style on lap steel on such songs as "Honysuckle Rose" and "Blue Hawaii" are just as complex, and enjoyable to myself at least, as any other steel guitarist in the world. After i have read a few threads here on the forum lately, i wanted to be so so careful with what i post. Cass  |
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Joe Casey
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Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 8 Nov 2009 11:08 am
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| What is a shame is an Artist like Daryl Singletary comes out with an Album that would have been a killer album years ago as did Mark Chestnut.Joe Nichols ect.All after Leeann Rymes Blue which had crossover sales...... There are a bunch of great voices that can't get enough airplay or sales (probably the lack of airplay hurts the sales)..The Opry stars are leaving us at a big rate now and being replaced with who is popular and willing to work for Artist scale..providing they can draw...The now generation is filling up Arenas at 50-75 bucks a pop..Legendary Artist still on the road are having problems getting 15+35. a person in small venues....All I'm saying if tradition Country sold as well it would comeback....I agree that people handg onto their prefrences for a lifetime..But after their lifetime no one takes their places... |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 8 Nov 2009 2:26 pm
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| Same with nashville. Checked out the price of opry tickets lately? |
Some years ago, wifey and I stayed at the OPRYLAND Hotel in a package deal that got us tickets to the Opry, as well as tickets to the HOF and Museum. The seats at the Opry were in the last row (as in crowded-tight dead last), and the museum was so dark I couldn't see half the stuff they had on display. It was not an enjoyable experience. The Ryman and the old museum were far more available and friendly for visitors, far more accessible and enjoyable.
My next trip to Nashville will bypass the Gaylord big-buck disappointments, and concentrate on the smaller venues. |
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 8 Nov 2009 9:17 pm Re: Country Music - The Opry
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| George Crickmore wrote: |
| Who else feels this way about this FIASCO in Trashville? |
I don't watch or listen to the Grand Ole Opry, so I don't care about what's going on in Trashville these days.
The Grand Ole Opry began its decline when they allowed drums and electric instruments onstage.
I think they should just shut down the radio and television broadcasts of the Opry and just let some acoustic folk and bluegrass bands play in the Ryman Auditorium. They can return the Opry to its 'hillbilly' roots and use it as a tourist attraction.
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 8 Nov 2009 10:16 pm
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I don't see what the big deal is? I think the Grand Ole Opry fills a real empty place in the music industry since American Bandstand and Soul Train are no longer on TV.
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Theresa Galbraith
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Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2009 5:16 am
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The GOO has changed, like everything else.
I still hear alot of Old Opry Stars with steel players and I hear Tommy White! |
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Dave Burr
From:
League City, TX
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Posted 9 Nov 2009 9:18 am Re: Country Music - The Opry
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| George Crickmore wrote: |
| Maybe good ol Jamey Johnson will be able to restore some order to country music. |
George, With all due respect, have you heard the latest song "My Cowboy" that he penned with Jessie James? Or watched the video for that matter. (Jamey has a cameo in the video) It may change your mind. Don't get me wrong, I really do like Jamey and think his last album is a gem! However, in all fairness he is also part of the problem... considering he helped pen "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" and this latest song "My Cowboy" by Jessie James... The girl's got some pipes, but the song is definitely NOT country. You can see the video in this link: http://www.thisisjessiejames.com/news_d.aspx?nid=5512
An excerpt from a recent article on her states; "James' influences include Shania Twain, LeAnn Rimes, Christina Aguilera, Janis Joplin and Bobbie Gentry. She's also a huge fan of rock music, and her favorite rock band is Nickelback."
Here's a link to the complete article.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/10/earlyshow/saturday/secondcup/main5151271.shtml?tag=cbsnewsLeadStoriesAreaMain;cbsnewsLeadStoriesHeadlines
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2009 11:03 am
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| Theresa Galbraith wrote: |
The GOO has changed, like everything else.
I still hear alot of Old Opry Stars with steel players and I hear Tommy White! |
I couldn't agree more!
Tommy is a really good player. Does anyone know why Weldon Myrick and Leon Rhoads, etc... were let go, did they just retired, or what happened? I've heard rumors, but you know how that is. Is there anyone here that knows the actual reasons?
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Theresa Galbraith
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Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2009 4:12 pm
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Leon still does the GOO with "The Whites"!
I'm not sure why Weldon was let go. I think Weldon is happy he's not working every Friday & Saturday Night, after doing it for so long. |
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2009 8:57 pm
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Cass,Sho preciate the [Bless his heart] This ole opinionated anti-political correctness geezer PO'S so many seems like I'm Married to all of them. YOU BETCHA.DYK?BC.
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Theresa Galbraith
From:
Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2009 9:28 pm
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| what? |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2009 11:43 pm
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"Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" Now there's classic material.
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Alvin Blaine
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Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Rick Campbell
From:
Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2009 11:41 am
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| Yep, the Hank Thompson thing. I hated to hear that one too. I really like a lot of Bobby Bare's stuff, but he had some .... Marie Levo, The Winner, Drop Kick Me Jesus, ..... I just couldn't stand to hear them. |
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Ray McCarthy
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New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2009 3:44 am
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| That Jesse James "Cowboy" thing--i guess as long as there's a banjo and the word cowboy in it, they figure they can call it "country". It's like that song "She's Country" by Jason Aldean where the guitar work approaches heavy metal! Oh, Nashville!!! |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 11 Nov 2009 7:19 am
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| Yep, the Hank Thompson thing. I hated to hear that one too. I really like a lot of Bobby Bare's stuff, but he had some .... Marie Levo, The Winner, Drop Kick Me Jesus, ..... I just couldn't stand to hear them. |
Hey, Rick - don't forget to include "Numbers" in that list... |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2009 5:25 pm
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| Yep, the Hank Thompson thing. I hated to hear that one too. I really like a lot of Bobby Bare's stuff, but he had some .... Marie Levo, The Winner, Drop Kick Me Jesus, ..... I just couldn't stand to hear them. |
Hey, Rick - don't forget to include "Numbers" in that list... |
Oh yeah, sorry about that.
It's kind of weird with me and Bobby. I either really like his songs, or really don't like them...... no in between. Detroit City, Streets of Baltimore, How I Got To Memphis, etc... Something about those songs with cities in the name and the others like Come Sundown, Millers Cave. Great stuff. |
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Alvin Blaine
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Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2009 6:56 pm
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Hey Rick,
I don't think you dislike Bobby Bare, you just don't care for Shel Silverstein songs. I think he wrote, or co-wrote, all those you listed as "I just couldn't stand to hear them".
How about more Shel songs like "Boy Named Sue" and "Put Another Log On The Fire"?
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