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Steven Knapper
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Tuning

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Does anyone out there know Red Rhodes steel guitar tuning? On the Mike Nesmith DVD Live at the Britt, Red was playing a 10 string, 4 pedal guitar. I have no doubt he had played around with tunings.
Anyone??!?
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Rick Winfield
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4 pedals

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According to Winston, the 4 ped tuning was Red's Eb6. (front)
Taken from a double neck, which had the first 3 ped for his Eb Diatonic neck (back)

Here's the 4 pedal tuning:
high to low:
F Bb G Eb C Bb G Eb C# Bb
LKL raise 4to F & 5 to C#
VERTICAL raise 5 to C# & 6 to B
LKR lower 6 to A
ped 4 raise 6 to C
Ped 5 raise 3&7 to G#
Ped 6 raise 4 to F & 5 to D
Ped 7 raise 3 to G#,lower 7 to F#,lower 9 to C,
lower 10 to G#
RKL raise 5 to C#, raise 8 to F
RKR lower 4 to D, and raise 9 to D

hope this helps
rick
Steven Knapper
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Just so I got this right and we are all on the same page, this was a single neck 10 string 4 pedal. No wonder I have such a hard time figuring out his songs. I'm a real Nez/Red fan from the 70's. Grew up in Orange County CA, so I got to see them a lot at Disneyland and Knotts Berrie Farm (the old John Wayne theater)any where I could. Maybe it's time to get another steel to play around with. Blackie Taylor told me about all the odd pickups he would come up with, like making a stereo pickup by making ever other winding go left side, right side, etc. BTW, where did this info come from?
Thanks, Steven
Steven Knapper
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Red's tuning

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Thank you Rick for taking the time to type that tuning for me. Where did you get this info? Did he ever just use the standard Nashville C6 and E9? I am curious what tuning (s) he used when working with Michael Nesmith which I consider some of the greatest work ever, you really have to sit down and listen to the songs, wonderful!
Thanks again, anymore info would be great.
Steven
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Post by Steven Knapper »

More Red Rhodes questions

Does anyone know what kind of pickup he was using, like I said before, I was told he messed around with pickups all the time. AND, anything else that would help me get that sound of his, which I just love.
Thanks again for any help
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