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Robert Harper
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Posted 17 Oct 2009 2:15 pm |
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I would like to hear peoples experiences with using a wrist lever. What led you to the decision to use a wrist lever. How many lever were you using before the wrist lever. Did you do away with any levers pedal with this change. In Addition, I would like to read a discussion of the verticle lever. really the same question. Would yous recommenf a newbie use a wrist or verticle Why, why not I read in another post that I think it was Mike had replaced the "C" pedal with a verticle. what are your thoughts. Would you reccomend a newbie do that? Hey guys just curious, not advocating anything
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Dave Beaty
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Mesa, Arizona, USA
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Robert Harper
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Alabama, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2009 6:52 pm Thanks
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Thanks and you know. I think I actually read those before I posted Getting old is He??
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 17 Oct 2009 7:18 pm
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Would I recommend verticals and wrist-levers for a newbie?
Well, I'd have to say that while a wrist lever may prove useful for a few players, the vast majority of players (probably well over 99%) get along very well without them. (Those are pretty convincing numbers, in my book!)
As far as vertical levers go, they're much more popular, and though I'd recommend at least one on each neck as being "helpful" for advanced players, I'd still go so far as to say that they are not necessary enough that a newbie should be concerned with them.
When we first start playing, we're usually too caught up in the complexities of playing. We can easily get enthralled and raptured when we see players who do amazing things with lots of levers and pedals, and it's easy to fall into the "more pedals and levers must equal a better player" frame of mind. However, I feel we should keep in mind that players who have, use, and master a lot of changes probably also have decades of experience.
When I got my first modern D10 steel back in the early '70s, it came with only 2 levers. But I judged that wasn't enough, so I added 2 more. Then I saw some players with 6 levers, so I added 2 more. A few players I saw later had more than 6, so I just had to have more, and I added 2 more which brought me up to 8 levers! Problem was, I found adding a bunch of levers did not really improve my playing very much. In fact, after adding all those extra levers, I was humbled (time and time again) by players who had far less, but played much more and much better than I did. That's when I had the epiphany...the realization that how fancy the gear is often has no relation to how good the player or the music is.
I still marvel at what Buddy Emmons did with only one lever on the "Steel Guitar Jazz" album, and what Curly Chalker did with no levers on his "Big Hits On Big Steel" album. These albums are classics, and they still stand up quite well to any C6th albums made today. They prove that it's mostly the player that makes the music, and not a fancy instrument. In the world of E9th, Lloyd Green is about as fine a player as you'd care to hear, and he does quite well without verticals and wrist-levers. |
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Robert Harper
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Alabama, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2009 8:52 pm Thanks
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I agree that more is not necessarily better. As a picker, I find everytime I make a major change to my platform. I have to spend precious time adjusting to the mechanics. I recently changed my MSA to a 12 strings and a Franklin pedal. This has meant adjusting my feet position to accomadate the different position of the A and B Pedal. I have also had to adjust to the different string spacing. This for most is probably not a lot of adjustment. However, I am not a pro and I work a steady day job, Thank God, so far anyway. So these adjustments causes me to spend time relearning what I already knew instinctively. Also, my undiagnosed untreated ADHD impedes concentration and frustration beconmes an issue pretty quickly. Hey everyone should be prepared with an excuse. Thanks for the reply
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin
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Sweden
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Posted 18 Oct 2009 12:12 am
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Ideally,a new change should be considered when the
player has become aware of the need for it,not just
because "...I might get into it one day,AND it looks
professional..." ; in reality,our guitars come w/ a
few,"empirically tested OK",pedals & levers,but they
were brought in for reasons aforementioned ; I wouldn´t ditch a knee lever in favour of a wrist
ditto ; in my book,it´s more of a last resort when
there´s need for a new change but You don´t feel
like messing up a functioning pedal/lever layout.
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 18 Oct 2009 5:56 am
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I use a wrist lever to lower the 5th string on my U-12. The reasons are that 1- the B-Bb change is truly universal. It applies to both the E9 and B6 sides of the tuning. By placing it on a wrist lever I have access to it regardless of where my feet are and what they are doing. 2- I do not like half stops, and I tune my 2nd string to C# and raise it to D and D# on my RKR and RKL respectively. Since I have the F# to G raise on a vertical, I have no place else to put the change.
The advantage of a wrist lever is, as I just said, that you can use it no matter where your feet are. The disadvantages are that you can’t chime while using it, and it makes it more difficulty to play up the neck. Sometimes I need to fold it out of the way. Like everything else, it’s a trade off.
I like it, but I would not recommend it to those who don’t absolutely need it.
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