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Marvin Born

 

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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 28 Sep 2009 1:39 pm    
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Would someone be so kind as to answer a few questions for me? I have tried to figure out some of these, but they are buried deep in the guitar and I can't find them.

1. In the progression, G,(at fret three, G7 at 6, C at 8 and D at 10, finishing with a G on 10. What is another good chord to add before the C chord. Such as when the 1 chord has several measures and you need something extra.


2. How to you play a G7b5 and a G7b9. Going up and down the neck.


3 How to play a Dm7. Going both way also would be nice.

I can move them around the neck. I just need a starting point.

My guitar has Emmons set up and the E's are on the left. (5 knees so I can raise string 1, 2 and 7 as well as lower 5 and 10.


Thanks everyone for your time.

Marvin
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Brian Pelky

 

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Portland, OR
Post  Posted 28 Sep 2009 5:59 pm     ideas
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Hi Marvin. Here are some ways of doing what you're asking for on the E9 neck that I’ve discovered. I'm sure others may have other ways, as well. I’m assuming here that you have a vertical lever that lowers the B’s to Bb for some of these:

1. In the progression, G,(at fret three, G7 at 6, C at 8 and D at 10, finishing with a G on 10. What is another good chord to add before the C chord. Such as when the 1 chord has several measures and you need something extra.

The G7 makes since as being the chord to go into the C chord because of the leading 7th note. Depending on exactly what the progression is, you might try a G13 after the G7 (3rd fret, strings 9,6,5 w/ A pedal engaged)…kind of a cool jazzy sound and basically just an extension of the G7.

2. How to you play a G7b5 and a G7b9. Going up and down the neck.

G7b5:

Fret 1, A&B pedals + vertical lever lowering the B’s to Bb, strings 6,5&4. This would give the -3,-5, and 7th voices. Then slide to fret 9 and hit only pedal A on the same strings. This would give the 7th, -3, and -5 voices. I’ll let you figure one out in between since that’s quite a jump!

G7b9:

Fret 8, A&B pedals + vertical lever lowering the B’s, strings 7,6,5 (5,7 & -9 voices). You can slide this up and down the neck both ways every 3 frets and it will still give you a G7b9, giving you the 3rd voice in some instances. FYI, this is also a Ddim, Fdim, Abdim, & Bdim at all the same locations for the G7b9 as described above. As the diminished voices are 1,-3, -5, & 6, I’ll let you figure out why that is so (hint….it has to do with the number of ½ steps between each voice).


3 How to play a Dm7. Going both way also would be nice.

Fret 1, no pedals, strings 6,5,4 (5,-7,-3 voices). Then slide to fret 4 and engage you’re A pedal and LKL. This gives you -7,-3, 5 voices. Then slide to fret 8 and engage pedals A & B only. This gives you the -3, -5, -7 voices. Notice these same locations and voicings are also an F chord – the only difference being that the voicings are shifted down a minor 3rd (i.e. the fret 1 position voicings for the F chord are 3,5 & 1).

There's gotta be other ways…..anybody else have any ideas?? I’d love to know too!
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Mike Delaney

 

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Fort Madison, IA
Post  Posted 29 Sep 2009 11:23 am    
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Hi Brian-

Another idea for you with G-7b5 is to play a Bbmin triad (Bb,Db,F). You have a bass player covering the root. Also, if you then lower the F to E the sound is that of G-7b5 to C7b9. Then go to an A min triad (A,C,E), which will sound like FMaj7 with a bass player on the root.

Hope this helps a little bit.

Mike
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Brian Pelky

 

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Portland, OR
Post  Posted 29 Sep 2009 12:26 pm    
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I see it! Thanks Mike.
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Marvin Born

 

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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 30 Sep 2009 1:30 pm    
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Thanks everyone, I have been working on these new chords and will eventually be able to used them in a progression. It is coming along slowly. I knew about leaving the root out on a 7th chord, but was not sure on the 7th with a flat 5, etc. I like your change Mike.

Marvin
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