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Topic: Emmons P/P changer capability |
Joerg Schubert
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Hagen, Germany
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Posted 30 Sep 2009 2:31 am |
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Hi,
I would like to add some new changes to my eighties Emmons P/P. This changes require that the changer is capable to move two strings a fourth. Here is what the changer needs to do (lowest to highest note):
E9 neck, string 6, F# -> B
C6 neck, string 9, E -> A
Has anybody experiences with this kind of changes on a P/P?
To implement the new changes I need to find myself a bunch off bellcracks, swivels, finetuners and if available pushrods. Any recommendations for sources where to find these parts are highly appreciated.
Thanks
Joerg |
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J Fletcher
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London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 30 Sep 2009 6:20 am
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Emmons Guitar Co. will have the parts for push pulls. See their online catalogue. You can determine if the changer will raise those strings to the desired note by tuning the changer. Pull the raise finger against the body, tune the string to the desired note with the tuning key at the peghead. Release the finger to it's unraised position and then see if you can tune the string to it's open note. Using the tuning screw at the end plate.
Others with more experience can probably add more to my basic explanation...Jerry |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2009 6:25 am
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I believe those changes you are considering are beyond the range of a p/p.
It will handle a full tone change but that is just about the limit, especially on the higher strings. |
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Bob Knight
From:
Bowling Green KY
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Posted 30 Sep 2009 6:29 am
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Last edited by Bob Knight on 30 Sep 2009 7:15 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Bobbe Seymour
From:
Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 30 Sep 2009 7:12 am
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Wrong, it can be done but needs an experienced P-P setup guy to do it most likely. Once it's done there should never ever be any problems.
Remember all the 10 and 10 setups that were put on these guitars? I even built a couple of 12 and 12 setups, with 8 knees. Still being played today. |
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2009 7:27 am
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"E9 neck, string 6, F# -> B"
You want your Emmons PP E9 string-6 G# to be able to lower to F# and raise to B?
What guage string?
You're probably looking at a .22 wound to get the full step lower.
You may need a "Lucky 7" for this one.  Bobbe stocks them, right next to the horizontal fretboards. 
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Walter Bowden
From:
Wilmington, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2009 7:28 am
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If you raise those strings a whole 4th up will they take the stress witout breaking?
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Emmons S10, p/p, Nashville 112, Zion 50 tele style guitar, Gibson LP Classic w/Vox AC30, Fender Deluxe De Ville and a Rawdon-Hall classical |
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Joerg Schubert
From:
Hagen, Germany
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Posted 30 Sep 2009 8:25 am
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Hi,
thank you all for your replies.
The changes I'm after are IMHO often found on all-pull guitars. The fourth on string 6, E9 results from Franklin pedal G#->F# and again Franklin LKV G#->B.
The string 9, C6 change I'm after is the DCA change on, guess who's, P5 F->A. In combination with the standard P8 change F->E we have again the fourth.
I'm pretty sure that the used string gauges, as well as the choice to go with stainless or nickel strings have to be put in consideration. Probably it is also neccesary to tweak the changer a little to get more travel. That's exactly the kind of information what I'm trying to get from the guys who already went through all the trial-and-error process.
Unfortuately sending the P/P to the US, do the setup there and get it transported back to Europe is not really an option. Costs and risks would be much to high.
Thanks
Joerg |
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