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Sonny Jenkins


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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2009 9:04 am    
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I am working on the Speed Picking 1 talk tape, and the first "lick" is played over the first two bars of the I chord, leading into the IV chord. Normally a singer would be singing those two bars of the I chord, I would begin my fill on the first beat of the IV chord. I've always believed the cardinal rule was "don't play on top of the singer"!! If I use that lick to "get from the I to the IV",,,I would be on top of the singer??? Could you clarify??
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Larry Bell


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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2009 12:37 pm    
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I'm not Paul, but . . .

There's really no such thing as a cardinal rule (well, I guess the Cardinals can have their own rules but they only apply in St. Louis -- or maybe the Vatican).

There are many examples -- often in 'West Coast' styles where you'll hear Jay Dee or Brumley (among others) riff throughout most of a song.

The only cardinal rule is play with taste in a way that complements the song. That is VERY subjective but if you and bandmates agree on what sounds best it will work. Musical taste and musical styles vary greatly but a good solid rendition of a song, played with authority, always works, IMHO.

When you do play this 'busy' style be sure it's not louder than the vocal and is more of an 'accompaniment' than a solo. Easy to say; not as easy to pull off.
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2009 12:52 pm    
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Well, I'm neither Paul nor Larry (Wink) but I think you're talking about a speed-picking tape that's trying to teach you how to SOLO over those chord changes, not recommending that you do this while the singer is singing! But when it's your turn to take a solo, whatchu gonna do? That's what you should be thinkin' here, I believe.
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Andy Sandoval


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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2009 1:10 pm    
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I too am not Paul, Larry or Jim but I think Larry and Jim offer some very good suggestions on how to approach this. Smile
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Chuck McGill


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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2009 3:00 pm    
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Sonny. If you learn to speed pick like Paul then you
can riff over my vocal anytime you want. Laughing
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2009 3:24 pm    
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I'm Ringo.
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Larry Bressington

 

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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2009 4:51 pm    
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That tape is a 'Git down gouge your eye's out' tape.
It does not cover 'Singer back-up'
You could use the licks wisely though in small phrases, but it is basically in a 16 bar 'solo' format.
The 'franklin' tapes are awsome too and a must.

I stole most of my back-up licks from 'Herby wallace's 100 licks.
It's a must for small phrases and is a great way to go if you are looking for short burst fill's, which most of us are.
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Mark van Allen


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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2009 9:59 pm    
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I'm not even Mark. What Cohen said...
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Bo Borland


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Post  Posted 15 Jul 2009 2:19 pm    
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Are we talking about the Speed Picking Solo series? Laughing
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Rick Campbell


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Sneedville, TN, USA
Post  Posted 15 Jul 2009 2:33 pm     Re: ???? for Paul Franklin
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Sonny Jenkins wrote:
I am working on the Speed Picking 1 talk tape, and the first "lick" is played over the first two bars of the I chord, leading into the IV chord. Normally a singer would be singing those two bars of the I chord, I would begin my fill on the first beat of the IV chord. I've always believed the cardinal rule was "don't play on top of the singer"!! If I use that lick to "get from the I to the IV",,,I would be on top of the singer??? Could you clarify??


No disrespect, but I think you're getting too "mechanical" with this. Play the lick the way you feel it. You'll do well.
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