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Black guitars, why do they sound "better"

Posted: 22 May 2009 11:48 am
by Chris Erbacher
hey, i was recently talking about all the joking around about how black guitars sound better on this forum, and wondering about how that came about...seems that someone did a study sometime somewhere and i just want the details because we were contemplating how that conclusion came about...so feel free to chime in with the details if you know any...

Posted: 22 May 2009 12:22 pm
by Nick Reed

Posted: 22 May 2009 12:30 pm
by Calvin Walley
Nick

that was great but i'll bet you sound just as good playing the green one haha

Posted: 22 May 2009 1:02 pm
by Ray McCarthy
Could be the black thumb pick! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 22 May 2009 1:20 pm
by Eric Philippsen
Hey, Nick,

Nice playing. Very nice. Yep, gotta love those black Emmons.

Posted: 22 May 2009 1:32 pm
by John De Maille
It has to do with the "color spectrum". :wink:

Posted: 22 May 2009 2:00 pm
by Rick Campbell
I think it's nonsense to believe a black guitar sounds better than any other color. However, most amps are black because the acoustic engineers have proven that to be the superior color in combination with the electronics of an amp. That's also why record albums are black. It has to do with the molecular structure of the polymer chains in the black plastic, and their response to audio frequences, and the RF given off by active electronic devices.

Posted: 22 May 2009 2:08 pm
by b0b
In truth, a black guitar always sounds better to the player because there is less visual distraction. He is better able to hear the tone. And since the steel guitarist who hears better plays better, the effect of a better sounding black guitar is communicated to the listening audience.

Music is psychological. Black guitars always sound best. Believe it!

Posted: 22 May 2009 2:12 pm
by Joshua Grange
Typically the black veneer tended to be the thickest, by over 3/32", compared to the stock mica veneer.
Also for some reason, as I have read on here before, the type of glue required to make the black veneer stick was a different kind of glue then that normally used. It made a stronger bond to the wood resulting in a "deeper" tone.
These reasons make it by FAR the best sounding of all colors, although as everyone knows Lake Placid Blue has a sweeter top end because of its thinness.

Posted: 22 May 2009 2:37 pm
by Calvin Walley
so does all this mean that this one will sound "kinda" better since its not black,
Image but kinda black haha

Posted: 22 May 2009 3:03 pm
by Rick Campbell
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This factor does not apply strictly to pedal steels.........

Posted: 22 May 2009 3:05 pm
by Ray Montee
The electric Hawaiian Richenbacker steel guitar being of BLACK BAKELITE is evidence of that SUPERIOR sound!!! Until you've played one, you might very well be mystified about that which we all knowing..... speaketh.

The chrome plates are merely to limit the total amount of GREAT SOUND being produced, nothing more. Too much of anything is not good.

Posted: 22 May 2009 3:16 pm
by Joe Miraglia
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What are you people from outer space,can you hear and small colors? Thats what I get for not having a gig this weekend,I have time to read the forum :( Joe

www.willowcreekband.com

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Posted: 22 May 2009 3:47 pm
by JACK HEERN
The (BLADE) wasn't black. I guess that's the reason Buddy sounds so shabby when he plays it. As bad as the "blade" sounds it was still listenable :D :twisted:

psg

Posted: 22 May 2009 3:49 pm
by Billy Carr
Turn out the lights and play. Black mica , in my opinion, tends to have less distractions. I like the black along with different shades of blue. I can get in a comfort zone with either. I still think it's what sitting behind the guitar that makes the difference though.

Posted: 22 May 2009 3:52 pm
by Herb Steiner
I painted my 1949 Bigsby a deep, rich black with 6 coats of oil-based enamel. I think it improved the sound, as well as looking more like my Emmons.

Posted: 22 May 2009 3:55 pm
by Matt Elsen
Can you imagine how amazing "The Blade" would have sounded if it had been black????? Woa! 8)

Posted: 22 May 2009 3:57 pm
by chris ivey
i can't believe anyone would care or be gullible enough to start this thread. jmho

Posted: 22 May 2009 4:07 pm
by Jay Fagerlie
C'mon Chris...
We've all heard the stories of you and that rattle can...
You Zum has never been the same!

Posted: 22 May 2009 4:10 pm
by Alan Brookes
b0b wrote:In truth, a black guitar always sounds better to the player because there is less visual distraction. He is better able to hear the tone. And since the steel guitarist who hears better plays better, the effect of a better sounding black guitar is communicated to the listening audience....
Then maybe we should play blindfolded, or with the lights out. No visual distraction then. ;-)

Posted: 22 May 2009 4:25 pm
by Brian Kurlychek
I think it is like anything else in life:

What looks better, tastes better, sounds better, feels better, drives better etc.

Why does your car drive better after you wash it? Same principle.

Black is a popular color and thus looks better so it sounds better

That is my theory. Feel free to shoot holes in it....

Posted: 22 May 2009 6:11 pm
by Lee Baucum
Believe it................or not.

Posted: 22 May 2009 6:45 pm
by Dave Hopping
Simple,guys.Black steels contain "dark matter",which due to quantum-flux continuum wavicle quark distribution prevents the player from making mistakes. :eek:

blackula

Posted: 22 May 2009 7:00 pm
by john widgren
Psycho-acoustic, or Psycho acoustic?

Roses are red, violets are blue,
I'm schizophonic...and so am I.

Posted: 22 May 2009 7:03 pm
by Tom Sosbe
they don't.their butt ugly