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Topic: V chord to V7 chord |
Karen Sarkisian
From:
Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2009 3:56 pm |
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| if i am in the key of G, I can play I-IV-V or even I-VI-II-V all on the 3rd and 5th fret. Where would be the typical place to go for a D7 chord? 1st fret with F lever? |
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Karen Sarkisian
From:
Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2009 3:58 pm
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John Phinney
From:
Long Beach California, USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2009 4:04 pm
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Typically you would play the D7 at the 3rd fret with the B pedal and the knee lever that lowers your E's engaged.
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Jon Light (deceased)
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Saugerties, NY
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Posted 27 Apr 2009 4:04 pm
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L=lower (E lever)
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1-----------
2-----------
3---3B------
4---3L------
5---3-------
6---3B------
7-----------
8---3L------ |
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Jeff Garden
From:
Center Sandwich, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2009 4:04 pm
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| I like the 3rd fret with B pedal and D knee lever for a D7 in that situation. Take your pedals down position for the D (5AB) and slide back two frets to 3BD. That D7 position also resolves nicely to the no pedals position for G on the 3rd fret. |
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Chris LeDrew
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Canada
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Posted 27 Apr 2009 4:11 pm
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| If you lower your 6th string G#, and do it on a different leg than your E lowers, you can get a regular D chord on the 3rd fret by engaging both lowers and using 8-6-5 or several other grips that do not involve string 3. |
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Karen Sarkisian
From:
Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2009 4:22 pm
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| Jon Light wrote: |
L=lower (E lever)
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1-----------
2-----------
3---3B------
4---3L------
5---3-------
6---3B------
7-----------
8---3L------ |
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thats the one i want
thanks!! |
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 27 Apr 2009 4:25 pm
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Yup - 3rd fret B-pedal plus E=>Eb lever is common out of that position. Toggle the A-pedal to get the dom 9th.
But as you say, 1st fret F-lever works, and you can get the root by dropping the 9th string (D=>C# lower), which is a very common change. Toggle the A-pedal to go between V and V7.
Or 10th fret no-pedals plus 2nd string D#=>D lever (usually on the same lever as the 9th D=>C# lower) if you want to work of that position. I think it's useful to know how to do things in different ways and in different positions. [edited to correct brain phart].
Last edited by Dave Mudgett on 28 Apr 2009 7:22 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Karen Sarkisian
From:
Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2009 5:16 pm
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Mike Poholsky
From:
Kansas, USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2009 6:33 pm
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I would also use 8th fret w/ A pedal. Typically an Am chord, but it works well over a D7. Especially walking down from the 10th fret w/ no pedals. You can use the basic string grips, but 456 & 568 sound best to my ears.
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John McClung
From:
Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 28 Apr 2009 1:15 am
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Hi Karen,
A dom7 chord that's fairly new to me and that I like a lot:
first, you have to have the "Franklin pedal" (whole step lower, strings 5, 6 and 10.
Play a D chord at fret 3, strings 1, 2 and 5.
hit the Franklin pedal, which lowers the root on string 5 a whole step.
You can resolve to the root G chord by blocking out this chord and picking any open G grip (no pedals or knees) at fret 3. Grip 1 works best (strings 3, 4, 5).
If you also have what I call the "Franklin knee lever" (string 1 raising a whole step; string 2 raising a half step), try this:
play that D7 I just described, then let go of the Franklin pedal and simultaneously engage the Franklin KL, and you get a resolve to G without having to block out anything, just ringing notes that beautifully morph to a new chord.
I don't hear anyone using these changes, but I think they're very useful and musical. Maybe Terry Bethel does, he's famous for gorgeous morphing chords!
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 28 Apr 2009 5:29 am
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1st Fret A pedal F Lever.. Let the A go.
up and down on the pedal for some Ray Charles action.
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John Steele (deceased)
From:
Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 28 Apr 2009 8:52 am
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Here's a simple but lovely move from the Buddy Emmons canon, to move from a straight D triad to D9.
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1-----------
2-----------
3-----------
4-----------
5--10~~~8A--
6--10~~~8---
7-----------
8--10~~~8---
9-----------
10----------
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Karen Sarkisian
From:
Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 28 Apr 2009 12:26 pm
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| John Steele wrote: |
Here's a simple but lovely move from the Buddy Emmons canon, to move from a straight D triad to D9.
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1-----------
2-----------
3-----------
4-----------
5--10~~~8A--
6--10~~~8---
7-----------
8--10~~~8---
9-----------
10----------
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- John |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 28 Apr 2009 1:19 pm
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| If you lower your 6th string G#, and do it on a different leg than your E lowers, you can get a regular D chord on the 3rd fret by engaging both lowers and using 8-6-5 or several other grips that do not involve string 3. |
And along with this, you can let off the G# lower lever (still holding the lever lowering the E's) and hit the B pedal getting a nice movement from the D to D7.
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4--3L----3L
5--3-----3
6--3LL~~~3B
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L= lower 1/2 step; LL = lower full step |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 28 Apr 2009 3:20 pm
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First fret with F lever is what I use most. Here are two more positions, one high, one low:
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F#__3______
D#__3______
G#__3B_____
E__________
B__________
G#______4__
F#_________
E_______4F_
D_______4__
B__________ |
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Bobby Snell
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 28 Apr 2009 5:34 pm
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| When you're at the 1st fret with the F lever you can pull-off & hammer-on to nice effect on almost all the strings! |
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Joseph Barcus
From:
Volga West Virginia
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 28 Apr 2009 6:44 pm
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Go back up and look at John Steele's little tab. If you have a knee-lever that lowers the 5th string one-half step, you can release the "A" pedal and then push that knee-lever to create another nice form of a D7 chord.
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