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Steel Lead for George Strait's "Gone as a Girl Can Get
Posted: 27 Apr 2009 8:18 am
by Clint Stevenson
I hope this is the right/best forum for this topic...
Does anyone have any idea's tips on where to start with this intro and lead break. For years I've wanted to learn it but never took the time to try to figure it out until a couple nights ago. It's a tuff one (at least for me). I haven't identified who recorded it yet, but that might help in figuring out what he's doing if you know that artist's style. I would love to hear from other steel players about this one.
Thanks!!
Clint
Posted: 27 Apr 2009 9:09 am
by Joseph Barcus
Clint
I think I may be able to help you on this one my guitar is in the case yet but I will get it set up late tonight and work on a video for it. I post videos on intros on you tube and also place them in my site at steelguitarintros.com my you tube name is joebarcus all one word. Joe
Posted: 27 Apr 2009 10:03 am
by Clint Stevenson
Thanks Joe! I'll look forward to watching your youtube video.
Posted: 27 Apr 2009 10:29 am
by Joseph Barcus
you are welcome. I have it pulled up and ready to work on. got to mow the grass today or I will get kicked out of the house lol Joe
Posted: 27 Apr 2009 8:38 pm
by Clint Stevenson
So, I looked in the album cover and it's Mike Daily playing steel. Don't think I've heard of him before, but anyway... I worked on it a little tonight and it sounds like the first three beats he's walking it up from the 1st fret, no pedals on strings 5 & 6. After that I'm lost until he lands on the diminished at the end of the intro.
Posted: 27 Apr 2009 8:45 pm
by Dave Magram
It's Buddy Emmons on the version of this song on the George Strait CD "Holding My Own"--one of my favorite recordings by Mr. Strait.
Buddy really works his magic on this recording.
If you like Gone As A Girl Can Get, you'll probably like You're Right I'm Wrong, So Much Like My Dad, Wonderland of Love, All of Me, and Trains Make Me Lonesome on the same CD. (BTW, the tab for Buddy's very nifty lick in Wonderland of Love is on the buddyemmons.com website.)
The Holding My Own CD is currently available on Amazon.com for the unbelievable price of 1 cent!
All of that Buddy Emmons magic for only a penny.
- Dave
George Strait
Posted: 28 Apr 2009 2:22 am
by Lonnie Zsigray
It is my understanding that Mike is part of the Ace In The Hole band and does the steel on the road with George.Most of the studio recordings are done by Paul Franklin with the exception of this CD mentioned.Is that the case?
Posted: 28 Apr 2009 5:13 am
by Clint Stevenson
I cited Mike Daily out of the booklet that came with the George Strait Boxed Set, which is the version of "Gone as a Girl Can Get" that I'm working on and the only version that I know of (same version that had so much air play back in the day).
Posted: 28 Apr 2009 5:18 am
by Clint Stevenson
Posted: 28 Apr 2009 4:55 pm
by Joseph Barcus
check this out clint let me know how it feels Im sure theres a few spots in it yet that needs tweeking Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeHBaIxZ714
Posted: 28 Apr 2009 7:08 pm
by Bill Moran
Joseph !!!!
Think I will have a drink and dance ?
Re: George Strait
Posted: 28 Apr 2009 7:41 pm
by Brett Day
Lonnie Zsigray wrote:It is my understanding that Mike is part of the Ace In The Hole band and does the steel on the road with George.Most of the studio recordings are done by Paul Franklin with the exception of this CD mentioned.Is that the case?
Yes, actually Mike is George's road steeler. Paul Franklin's been on almost every record George recorded and in 2002, when George did a live album, Mike played steel on it. John Hughey was on "Amarillo By Mornin'", and Paul Franklin played on almost every other record, and around the time the "Pure Country" movie came out, Buddy Emmons played on a few of George's songs.
Posted: 28 Apr 2009 9:49 pm
by Dave Magram
I stand corrected- it is Mike Daily on two tracks: Gone As A Girl Can Get and It's Alright with Me, and Buddy and other studio musicians on the other eight tracks of the Holding My Own CD.
On the liner notes of the CD the studio players are listed on one page, and the Ace In the Hole band are listed on the next page (which I hadn't noticed earlier).
I'd highly recommend buying the CD--for one penny on Amazon.com, you simply cannot go wrong with this great recording!
- Dave
steel player
Posted: 29 Apr 2009 5:25 am
by Lonnie Zsigray
Brett,thanks for the info.Good to know who's playing on these recordings.Wish this kind of info was available years ago.Still would like to know who played steel on some Marty Robbins recordings such as Shackles and Chains.Seems like the last name was Farmer but I don't recall.
Posted: 29 Apr 2009 6:14 am
by Danny Naccarato
If I'm not mistaken, the time period that Buddy was on George's album was when Paul went on the road with Dire Straits. If I also recall, several N'ville "A" steelers got session work during that time period, filling the hole that Paul's absence opened. Seems like it was at least a year
Posted: 29 Apr 2009 11:32 am
by Jack Strayhorn
This was definitely Mike Daily and he tabbed this for me back when it was released as a single. He tabbed it while out on the road because it is written on hotel letter head. I can share the tab after I get permission from Mike.
Also, Weldon recorded several of George Strait albums prior to Paul. It was Weldon on the "Right or Wrong" album, which for me was the album that put George on the map. Right or Wrong is my all-time favorite C-6 ride.
George used to use his band on one or two cuts of each album. I am not sure if he still does this.
Posted: 29 Apr 2009 11:34 am
by Joseph Barcus
Jack
I for one would like to see the tab when you get permision. Joe
Posted: 29 Apr 2009 11:49 am
by Jack Strayhorn
Another interesting story about the recording industry. At the time that Weldon was recording with George, Weldon was the hot session player in town (along with Sonny Garish) and had most all of the major accounts. According to Weldon, one day the studio called to schedule a Strait session and Weldon was completely booked. The studio said they would call and reschedule, but guess what? They called a somewhat newcomer, Paul Franklin, and the rest is history. I guess you could say that Weldon helped Pauls career along. I would like to hear Pauls take on this period of time. Afterwards, Paul took over most all of the major accounts. Not until John started recording with Vince did you hear of anyone else on a major label release.
Posted: 30 Apr 2009 5:07 am
by Clint Stevenson
Jack,
I also would greatly appreciate the tab when/if you get permission from Mike. That would be great!
Joe,
I left you a message on youtube, but I'll say it here too... Great job figuring out that intro! I haven't gotten to work on it yet, but it sounded very very close on your youtube vid. Just unpacked my steel yesterday eve after a weekly Tues night jam I go to and found I have a (somewhat) broken E lever
Going to have to put on my machinist hat and mill out a new part
Posted: 30 Apr 2009 5:35 am
by Joseph Barcus
thank you clint you know one can never figure out all of it im sure there is some places in it that was done a different way. I have never played that song and worked on it for about a hour before posting it. I noticed also that on conways Hello Darling John played it different all the time but what he played was as good a what he played before. and I will bet you today when George sings this song his steel player does the same. but thats the fun of this instrument isnt it. I like trying to figure out the stock intros if I can and I have to say this one here is a hard one, you noticed on you tube I also slowed it down 50% and played it so you or others can also play the song several times to work on it as well. Joe
Posted: 30 Apr 2009 7:04 am
by Franklin
Jack,
The newcomer Weldon was refering to had to be Hank Devito. Hank moved to Nashville around that time. Hank played on the the first Jimmy Bowen production, "Does Fort Worth Ever Cross Your Mind". This record followed Weldon's "Right or Wrong", which is the last of Ray Baker recordings. The next album, "Something Special" was my first GS sessions.
Jimmy Bowen started co-producing with his artists. Mike Daly brought George to the Hall of Fame" club right before they were booking musicians. Mike introduced me to George, who then asked me to play on his new record. As much as I love Weldon, Mike Daly is who brought us together. Mike is not only a great musician, he's one heck of a nice guy!
Paul
Posted: 30 Apr 2009 9:20 am
by Clint Stevenson
Thanks for the info Paul! Always great to hear from you!
Joe, in your youtube video, you end the run on the 6th fret with a 4-5-6 grouping and your #4 string raised a half tone. Isn't this a diminished? Maybe I should start a new thread for this discussion, but up to now I thought the only combo that got you a 7th chord with a 4-5-6 grouping was 6th string raised a half tone and 4th lowered a half tone...? Sorry, but I've been especially interested in diminished chords lately, as I've never really understood how to use them.
Posted: 30 Apr 2009 9:32 am
by Joseph Barcus
Clint,
it could be either one depends on your strings you play but yes thats a G7th 6th fret with only your E's raised. Joe
Posted: 30 Apr 2009 9:34 am
by Joseph Barcus
read your post once more the 6th string was not raised at all clint used the 6th string to come back from the 8th fret to get that 7th feel added the other two in there string 4&5 with the 4th raised to get the rest of the 7th sound. Joe
Posted: 30 Apr 2009 9:41 am
by Joseph Barcus
Clint drop me your number at
jba9328547@aol.com or give me a buzz 304-457-2897 Joe