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Robert Murphy


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West Virginia
Post  Posted 17 Apr 2009 5:50 pm    
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I want to add palm pedals to my Dobro to get classic country pedal steel licks but what in theory am I really looking for? Do I want to raise the 3rd up and back down, do I want to lower the root a half tone? Just what makes some of the most familiar pedal steel licks from a notation point of view? This will help be to place the pedals and their funtion correctly. Any audio would be helpful too.
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John Allison


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Austin, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 19 Apr 2009 8:08 am    
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The A and B pedals on a pedal steel give you a 5 to 6 and 3 to 4 raise respectively. You can play around with different set ups for different tunings and sounds, but that's the basic country sound you're probably looking for. The A pedal raise by itself puts you into a VI minor and employing both together gives you the IV major chord. Lowering and raising A while B is held down gives you one of the most familiar country "licks".
Thr problem with most palm pedals is that they only work on one string, so you're stuck with partial chords and licks. And Dobro strings are pretty high tension and the levers take more force to work than on an electric lap steel.
Look into a Hipshot...it's pretty much instant gratification. Be aware that if you raise and lower a wound string over your bridge, you'll be sawing your slot deeper over time and eventually you'll have to deal with that.
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Nils Fliegner


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2009 8:13 am    
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IMHO the raise from second to major third is the single sound that screams pedal steel the most.
Tune to GBDGAD and then raise that high A to B.

Here's a guy that does it with his hands:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv19x2FSSoo&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvc8c0u7bM&feature=channel

Also, this tuning will give you a V to VI raise ...and a bVII to I raise in slant position.
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 19 Apr 2009 10:52 am    
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D
B--C
G--A
D
B
G
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Janet Newsom

 

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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 19 Apr 2009 4:51 pm    
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Take a look at Curtis Burch's website, he uses palm pedals.
Also, string pulls like Martin Gross and others use work well, it takes some practice but is fun to do.
Janet
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Robert Murphy


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West Virginia
Post  Posted 20 Apr 2009 1:27 pm    
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Thanks folks that is what I wanted to know.
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Chris Scruggs

 

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Nashville, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 20 Apr 2009 2:54 pm    
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I would personally recommend E9th tuning:

E
B------raise to C#
G#-----raise to A
F#
E
D or B

As a Dobro player, it would make sense for you to use D tuning. You would just ignore the palm pedals in standard G tuning and then tune down to D for pedal sounds:

D
A---B
F#--G
D
A
D

Or just drop tune the effected strings to D tuning and leave the rest of the tuning in G. That way when you push the palm pedals you will be back in G tuning, and your retuning will be quicker:

D
A---B
F#--G
D
B
G


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Twayn Williams

 

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Portland, OR
Post  Posted 20 Apr 2009 3:49 pm    
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Can you even put palm pedals on a dobro???
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Janet Newsom

 

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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 20 Apr 2009 4:29 pm    
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www.curtisburch.com

Check out 'my guitars' and 'links' for palm pedals.
Jan
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