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Jerry Dragon


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Post  Posted 12 Mar 2009 8:27 am    
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I don't actually know but it must be about 6 months since I got the PSG.
Nothing to gauge it against but I feel I am doing fairly well for the amount of time I have to practice. I still haven't looked in a book or anything but have found most of the chords I will need for a long time.
I started working on Yakety Sax and almost have it down. It turns out it transfers to PSG quite well.
I almost always improvised on guitar for the past 45 years and very rarely copy anything and that seems the route I am taking.
The time I would spend looking in a book I guess would be better off spent playing?

Thanx all.
PS, when are dues due?
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Nic du Toit


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Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
Post  Posted 12 Mar 2009 12:49 pm    
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I also came from a guitar/ piano background and figured I knew enough to find my way around the steel neck.....all went well for about a year or so. That's when I found myself up against a wall.
Fortunately I attended one of Jeff Newman's week long classes in Gnashville, and came back home a changed man!.. Smile I had to 'un-learn' some bad habits, and replace them with more 'correct' ways of playing things.... That's when the light came on for me.
Why would you like to re-invent the wheel? I recommend you look at some teaching courses. It will cut down on many months of trying to wing it on your own...
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Jerry Dragon


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Gate City Va.
Post  Posted 12 Mar 2009 10:10 pm    
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don't have time to look in a book right now, really. I have maybe three hours a day during the week for the wife the kids and the house and myself. If I can squeeze in one hour of practice a day I am doing good. When I hit the wall I will go for it.
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Matthew Prouty


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Warsaw, Poland
Post  Posted 13 Mar 2009 3:56 am    
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I second Nic's recommendations.

I hear this often, mainly from people from the east coast about a fascination about being self taught. I don't know where the mystic comes from, but its easy to see someone that's self taught and someone that had studied under a master player. What you can learn in 5 minutes with someone who has mastered the instrument might take a life time of foolish mistakes to figure out.

I tell you this from a professional stand point. I am an instructor by trade and I don't push any of my knowledge on anyone at work. I let them at it. Some guys will come to me after 2 weeks of banging their head against the wall and I will show them the most simplest thing you could possible imagine and fix their 80+ hour head ache in 5 seconds. I am not saying I am any better than anyone at work, I am just 1 page ahead of them in the book. If they came to me in the first place they would have had 79 hours and 59 minutes to invest in something other than getting their blood pressure up.

I was presented by someone, from the east coast, and that individual told them, "He is self taught!" and everyone went "Oooooo". I proceeded to correct this falsehood and explained that I studied and am mentoring under one of the industry's top players and this seemed to let the wind out of their sails, which left me baffled. Shortly after someone else from the east coast asked "Are you self taught?" with that same air of mystic surrounding it.

I guess there is something to say about an individual that just picks something up and figures it out, but I would be willing to bet those individuals are few and far between.

Studying the rudiments of any instrument will make that player excel to the highest level possible and studying those rudiments with a master player will be evident in that individual's playing almost immediately.

I would highly recommend Jeff Newman's material. You will be amazed to discover what you did not know.

I would also recommend finding an instructor in your area. This is key to getting of fast on the right foot.
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Nic du Toit


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Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
Post  Posted 13 Mar 2009 5:17 am    
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Well put, Matthew. The reasons offered by Jerry for doing it his way, are precisely the very reason why he should re-think his approach, and spend his available time wisely.
I suppose you [/i]can lead a horse to water once he's thirsty enough. Smile
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Jerry Dragon


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Gate City Va.
Post  Posted 13 Mar 2009 7:31 am    
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the nearest person I can find to teach is an hour one way etc. I am not looking to be a virtuoso, I am just having fun. I play sax, keys, guitar, bass, harmonica and drums. I am 57 and have no interest in being a stage PSG player, what is so wrong with that? I plod along at my own little pace and am having a great time discovering things on my own. When that joy wears off I will take the time to get some lessons maybe.
I have no expectations of ever being a great PSG player. I know there is not enough time for me to practice or enough time left in my life for that.
So, come on down.
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Nic du Toit


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Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
Post  Posted 13 Mar 2009 8:16 am    
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Righto....now I understand. I was trying to answer your parting question in your original post.....I agree that the steel is such a great instrument to explore, and I'm sure you are still going to have lots of fun doing just that. You are most welcome to give me a shout if there's something I can help with.....
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