The Steel Guitar Forum

The Blue Room was a hot spot for KIEV 870am Country Radio with Bill Beaton & Chuck Wilder. That when Lee Ross had his record out called " The Town Crier " on Sims Records.Also,Johnny Dallas was the D.J. on K.W.O.W. 1600 am. and them guys would support Country Musicians. So how many of you played the Blue Room? LJ

Leo, I never worked there in the regular band but have played there on the jam on occasion. Remember the "Morning Session" we used to go to? Remember when Johnny Paycheck was living in LA and used to have the gig for a while. I remember at one point he was playing steel guitar there. At one morning session I was at, Paycheck was passed out and laying face first on his steel guitar. He was big time into "controlled substances", but then again, a bunch of us were. I really miss those old days, especially the weekends where we'd all stay up anywhere from two to 4 days without going to sleep and attend all the after hours, morning sessions, and afternoon jams before returning to our regular gigs at night. I'm surprised we're still alive, aren't you?........JH in Va.

Who's "Moorie Shapiro?"

Hey Jerry! Them were the fun days.I never did do any of them white lines little fever pills nor them funny kind of smokes.I did do a little drinking,but,not much. Music was my high. Staying up was easy for me without all them crazy things in ones body. That why I always took care of them brothers of our. I didn't like what they were doing to themselfes,but,they were big boys. LJ

I think he might be referring to Morrie Shapiro that came from California to Manitou Springs Colorado in about 1967 or 68 and opened the SunDown Lounge in Manitou. He imported a band from California to be the house band. He left here back in the late 70's and went back East somewhere. Jim Miller was the leader of the band and Johnny M. played steel.

Edited to spell Mr Shapiro's name correctly. The fellow in the picture below is who I was referring to.

George

Thanks, George.

By George,You got it Right! That was a fum Jam session gig for me with Donny Young. Leo

Donnie Little wasn't bad either.

Lytle

Of course it doesn't make any difference, Some of the regulars in the music forum can't spell anyway.

No I can't and it makes me wonder why? But,in good sense of resepct,I'm glad you(John Floyd) know how smart you are and that dose make a difference. Leo J.Eiffert,Jr.

Hey-I know how smart John Floyd is, too!

I'm Barely Smart Enough to realize where this is going with you Two.

I never named any names.

As a Matter of fact I was picking on Joe Casey.

Okay John,my middle name is Joe. We are having fun in the sun.looks like I lose again in trying to not lead.LJ

That be the same Blue Room that Vern Stovall and Phil Baugh played around late 50's early 60's? Some a dem days (and nites) are a bit fuzzy.

Here's a few guys that played there.

Hmm, good topic, seems like the Blue Room was the hot spot for jamming all night.

Those pics Scott, I seem to recall you mentioning the Eddie Drake one was 1963, the other 1964 I'd say at a guess with Vern Stovall on Brookhurst, no later than 1965.

I reckon Carl Walden needs to get in on this topic.

J.

Scott,Them were the days.I got to pick with all them great Musicians and that's how I got my Education in Country Music from all them Jam Sessions.That the History that The Academy of Country Music wants to discharge like it never happened. And all them Musicians took that Education to Nashville from California Music scene and call it the Nashville Sound. Leo J.Eiffert,Jr.

Mr Eiffert,
Personally,I don't think the Nashville sound has ever sounded like the West Coast music.

Fred,Go back and look at the names on them records and you'll see who was in California before going to Nashville with all that Country Music Education and see the ones who came to California to get that Education. In respect we can sure see who made west Coast Country into Nashville Sound. Also,almost everybody in Nashville was born from another State.Sincerely in Music,Leo J.Eiffert,Jr.

Buddy Cagle now thats got me wondering about him.When I left Cal thanks to Uncle sam and he had a hit I believe on Capitol called Chicago Airport.He was doing Sundays and other nights at Georges Round up about that time. Some good things were happening for him but I never heard much more of him after I left the states. Is he still around?

Joe, I'm not sure but I think Buddy might have passed away a few years ago, I remember someone telling me that. I worked a couple of one nighter private things with him on my lead guitar years ago. He was one of the nicest guys around. I remember him asking me once "I've got a request for 'El Paso', would it offend you if we played it in C#?" I said no, I have a capo in my guitar case (which I used). Buddy worked at an aluminum plant somewhere near Riverside for many years I believe. Also at one time he was on Capitol and had a record called "The Gold Cup" which was pretty good. Also, he recorded "Sing a Sad Song" at around the same time Merle Haggard did but evidently Merle's recording did better nationally. They used to play Buddy's record on KFOX in Long Beach. Capitol was "experimenting" with SoCal singers for a period back then, namely Buddy, Bobby Durham, Cindy Carson, and some other local favorites....JH in Va.

Hey Jerry, Buddy Cagle was on Reprise Records with a song called " Trouble In My Arms " & " Now,That Didn't Hurt Much,Did It?". Here's a feww more memories. Glenn Garrison's on Lode Records with "The Ballad Of Hank Gordon ". Edge Records with " Little Joe Shaver ", " Mrs. Brown ". Leap Frog Records with " Eddie Jo Downs & Billy Webb ", " The Hawaiian Wedding Song ". Redhill Records with " Pat Evans "," How Can A Woman Change Her Mind ". Hayshaker Records " Don Ellington "," I Can't Share You With A Memory ". & Plain Country Records " Johnny Vee " ,Stand Up America (We Love You ). & Bullhead Records " Cindy Jordan " with " Jose Cuervo. Now these should shank your memories. LJ

leo
in case anybody wonders or cares....
cindy jordon now resides in san angelo, texas.
she's the same ol' cindy, ....
everybody loves her
everywhere she goes....
'cause she loves everybody......
and everybody knows....
what a songwriter!

country jack

Well Jack, If you see " Cindy Jordan " again soon, tell her her old friends Leo & Marie Cracknell said,hey.I've picked with her a few times. Just ask her who was on her recording of " Jose Cuervo ". LJ

Hey Leo, you sure do bring back memories to me. I worked there a few times but mostly went to the jams. The first time I ever saw Loretta Lynn she was guest starring the and the house back was backing her and i'm not really sure but I think it might have been Vern Stovalls band, it's been so long ago, i know that Bobby George was there also and we got up and did a couple of songs. Buddy Cagle played bass for me at Georges Roundup#2 before, i can't remember if it was Wynn Stewart or Danny Michals left #1, anyway which ever George put buddy and band there. And you are correct he was the nicest gentleman and boy could he sing, especially Marty Robbins, thanks for the memories. db