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David Gilmour
Posted: 28 Oct 2008 11:51 am
by Terry VunCannon
David Gilmour always goes for the right note...not just a bunch of notes on the guitar...he does the same thing on lap steel.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je0AHdofgf8
Posted: 28 Oct 2008 11:54 am
by Terry VunCannon
Thanx, TVC!
Posted: 28 Oct 2008 12:22 pm
by Ron Whitfield
Great to see one of my all-time faves on guitar and vocals, tearing it up quite well on the steel.
I'm now adding this DVD to my 'hold a gun to Santa's head' list.
The guy shows how to rock on a steel in just a few short minutes.
Posted: 28 Oct 2008 12:36 pm
by Brad Bechtel
In that second video, it looks like he's playing a late model Gibson EH-150 with the slanted pickup. Nice sound on both that and the Fender Deluxe 6 he is playing on the first video.
Posted: 28 Oct 2008 1:05 pm
by Terry VunCannon
Brad...I am not sure, but I think that is a Jedson lap with mods, not a Fender...Terry V.
Posted: 28 Oct 2008 1:59 pm
by Tom Pettingill
Love Gilmours playing, both regular guitar and lap steel.
Here is some steel off a great DVD David Gilmour did back in 2004, nice rendition of Shine On You Crazy Diamond.
http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/dg/index.html
Posted: 28 Oct 2008 2:59 pm
by Rich Hlaves
Terry,
I think that is Davids Deluxe 6 in the 1st vid. Same one he played in the concert that aired about 2 weeks ago on VH1 Classics.
He has both a red and a white Jedson I believe but you get a little shot of the name plate early in the video, sure looks like his Fender to me.
The guy has class to no end in my book. Living proof that less is more.
Thanks for the thread,
Rich
Posted: 28 Oct 2008 8:36 pm
by Terry VunCannon
Thanks Rich. I love all the info avalible on this forum. You can learn & enjoy something every time you log on.
There is another cut on youtube were Gilmour plays his weissenborn on a stand, & then switches back to acoustic. I think it's a song from his new solo CD.
Posted: 28 Oct 2008 10:38 pm
by Rich Hlaves
Terry, The first video and the Weissendorn solo are cut from the "Live in Gdansk" video (DVD) I mentioned above. The other six string player in there is none other than Phil Manzanera. This could also be the last recording of the late Rick Wright. All this reminds me I need to go the the VH1 website and buy the DVD. It was great on TV, matter of fact I saved it in the DVR.
He open the show with "Breath" from Dark Side and plays all the slide parts on steel. Way cool in my book. Gilmour was actually the first guy I ever saw play a Lap steel, most likely the red Jedson, when I saw the Meddle tour back in my high school days. That was about 35 years ago.
RH
Posted: 29 Oct 2008 3:46 pm
by chris ivey
i dunno...this stuff doesn't impress me that much....why? ...i could do that....i just don't have the budget for lighting..strings..etc. and i expect more from someone making big bucks!
Posted: 29 Oct 2008 4:12 pm
by Ron Whitfield
It's not like he just started yesterday, rich, connected, full of ideas and experience, and threw this all together for a laff one night.
Lot's of people think they could do what the legends do, because they often make it look easy.
Trust me, Chris, I'm not downing you, but if you can ever pull anything like this off even on a smaller scale, I'd like to check it out. Let me know when and where, so I can get tickets.
Posted: 29 Oct 2008 5:11 pm
by Rich Hlaves
Ron,
I saw him first play in the early '70s. I know what you are talking about. There is a maturaty there now that has developed over nearly 5 decades.
The style of music he plays and "his" use of steel doesn't impress some purests of the steel faith. I am ok with that and just have a broader taste in music I guess. Doesn't make either one of us right or wrong.
Without flaming anyone, isn't there an old guitarist joke about how many guitarists does it take to screw in a light bulb? I think the punch line was 4. One to do the screwin' and three to stand there and say "I can do that". ....And, I can play 64th notes....Wanna here one? Nuff said.
I am not impressed with the lighting or the strings either but I like them. I AM impressed with Gilmour playing the right note. It is not always the note you expect and that is the beauty of it. He creates both tention and great smoothness.
When you buy the tickets Ron, get one for me, I'll sneak in the wine skin full of hooch.
Best,
Rich
Posted: 29 Oct 2008 5:11 pm
by George Manno
I've heard David in concert several times.He just blows me away. I read that he uses nine pedal effects to get his tone. That's not counting what he is using for amps.
G
Dang!
Posted: 29 Oct 2008 6:09 pm
by Ron Whitfield
I guess getting the new Fender 'Gilmour' Strat won't make me sound like David after all...
www.petecornish.co.uk/pfrig.html
Like most other's here, I find his taste is impeccable.
Funny thing, Rich, even in the late 60's he showed a huge range of maturity in his playing, and it's just aged incredibly well.
Too bad he doesn't feel the need to rip heads off like he used to. Few did it as well.
Posted: 29 Oct 2008 6:32 pm
by Gerard Ventura
Great stuff- thanks for posting-
using a flatpick too- works for him!
Posted: 29 Oct 2008 7:12 pm
by Rocky Hill
[quote="chris ivey"]i could do that.quote]
Please show it to us than!
Rocky
Posted: 29 Oct 2008 9:49 pm
by chris ivey
than what?
Posted: 30 Oct 2008 12:59 am
by Chris Drew
Classy playing from a classic player, he's a real "Jack of all-trades & Master of many".
Terry VunCannon wrote:There is another cut on youtube were Gilmour plays his weissenborn on a stand, & then switches back to acoustic. I think it's a song from his new solo CD.
Could you post the URL for this?...
I can't find it.
Thanks.
Oh yeah..."I could do that"=
Yeah, maybe so ( post it! ) but if you indeed could do that then the key point is that you'd be sounding like Gilmour, not chris ivey.
Posted: 30 Oct 2008 5:45 am
by James Kerr
I tend to agree with Chris Ivey, I know David Gilmore is a very accomplished player, but having watched the Vids I don't find anything there which would impress me as much as some of the Lap Steel players on this Forum.
James.
Posted: 30 Oct 2008 5:51 am
by Bill Leff
He doesn't play enough notes.
I want to hear Yngwie play lap steel!
Posted: 30 Oct 2008 6:09 am
by Stephen Wells
I think perhaps Gilmore follows the advice of Steinar's sign off: "play to express, not to impress". Could I play that? Yes. Did I play that; and do it 30+ years ago? No.
I spend a lot of time trying to get my students to understand the difference between technical prowess and the ability to say something musically. For me
BB King can still say more with one note than any sweeping shredder playing 90 miles an hour. I just don't think it's about how hard the part is to play.
$.02 worth
Stephen
Posted: 30 Oct 2008 6:59 am
by Steinar Gregertsen
Nothing of what Gilmore plays, on guitar or lap steel, is hard to play on a technical level. But that's not the point - his whole career has been about finding the right notes that fits and enhances the song, and tell a story through his playing.
Whether that story appeals to us listeners is another matter, we're all tuned to our own individual wavelengths...
Posted: 30 Oct 2008 7:50 am
by Rocky Hill
chris ivey wrote:than what?
Then we would know if you really could.
Rocky
Posted: 30 Oct 2008 8:51 am
by Mark Mansueto
That's the beauty of Gilmour's playing... the genious is in the simplicity and how he makes it sound so impressive. Not only picking the right combination of notes but also the sonic components (tone + effects).
I can copy most everything Gilmour does on guitar or lapsteel but I could never originate it.
Posted: 30 Oct 2008 11:00 am
by Ron Whitfield
I was fairly impressed with his ablities per the mechanics of his steel playing. Good fundementals in technique and basic holding of the bar, and the slight sliding in and out of some notes was very good. If he taught himself, then I'm quite impressed! I'd like to hear of his learning process.
I wonder what he does in private to have fun on the steel and what else he plays? I'd love to have been a fly (with extrordinary life span) on the wall in his studio all these years.
Funny, on the DSOTM LP, you can detect a few minor screw ups when he plays the steel, but it doesn't matter, it was the overall feeling that counted.