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Beginner Question - Volume Pedal

Posted: 29 Aug 2008 10:45 am
by Ric Truett
What is the difference between a volume pedal with a "pot" and one that doesn't have a pot? Does one have significant advantages over the other? Just curious...thanks

Posted: 29 Aug 2008 11:23 am
by Brian Kurlychek
I am a new player. I am going to assume you are asking the differences between a Goodrich and a Hilton. My understanding is sometimes a pot pedal can change the tone as you are sustaining and some people have the matchboxes to correct that. I don't know enough about them to know of any other differences.

Posted: 29 Aug 2008 2:56 pm
by Jack Stoner
The biggest difference is that with an electronic volume pedal, such as a Hilton, there are no pot to wear out and have to be replaced or no turning mechanism for the pot (usually a string) to break - The only moving part in the Hilton volume pedal is the top "tread" part of the pedal.

Where are you in Florida? Have you seen our Florida Steel Guitar Club web site? www.floridasteelguitarclub.com

If you are not too far away come visit and talk to our club members. They can answer your questions.

Posted: 29 Aug 2008 3:20 pm
by b0b
A pot pedal doesn't have a battery or power supply to plug in, so it's simpler. A pot pedal has less treble at lower volumes - an effect that some people like and others don't.

I prefer the pot pedal, but for many years I used an electronic pedal. My preference has changed over the years.

Posted: 29 Aug 2008 5:06 pm
by Ric Truett
Jack, I'm actually in 2 places in Florida right now. I live in Largo, but I am working in Lakeland. I stay with my oldest daughter in Plant City M-F, then go home to Largo for the weekends.

I actually found your website and would love to come and meet everyone. :D

Thanks B0B for the info too...

Posted: 30 Aug 2008 3:58 am
by Tony Prior
It is NOT a comparison between two brands. Goodrich makes both , the 120's and the LDR's.

I have both, I use the POT pedal on gigs( less wires) and the electric pedal at home.I gotta be honest,I can't tell the difference, especially on a live STAGE.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008 6:12 am
by Jack Stoner
Ric, Saturday afternoon, Sept 20th, we will have our club's 6th anniversary jam - noon to 5PM. Since you work during the week, this might be a better time to visit the club.

I have a Hilton and you can compare it to the pot pedals.

Many still use the pot pedal as there are aren't power cords to plug in, but it's not really that big of a deal since most have effects that they must plug in, the amp, etc.

Unless I've missed something, the last I saw on the forum was that Goodrich had discontinued making the electronic volume pedals and went back to only the pot type. Steel Guitar Nashville used to have the Goodrich LDR listed but the only Goodrich VP's they have listed now are the pot types.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008 6:23 am
by Donny Hinson

Posted: 30 Aug 2008 7:04 am
by Don Sulesky
Ric
I will also be at the FSGC jam and most likely be sitting next to Jack as we run the club together.
I will also have the new Hilton.
I have no problem plugging it in because I plug my amp and DD-5 into the same extension cord which I have had to use in almost every place I've played.
If you can make it you'll see both Goodrich pot pedals an Emmons pedal and the Hiltons.
Also many different amps but most use the NV112.
Don

Posted: 31 Aug 2008 4:17 am
by Jamie Lennon
I have just gone back to my pot pedal too from using a Hilton. Great pedals but I prefer the tone of the pot pedal ! :)

Re: Beginner Question - Volume Pedal

Posted: 31 Aug 2008 10:11 am
by Donny Hinson
Ric Truett wrote:What is the difference between a volume pedal with a "pot" and one that doesn't have a pot? Does one have significant advantages over the other? Just curious...thanks
Each has different benefits, but either will do the job. Look at the top pros, they use both kinds. They also use many different brands of guitars, so each of those will also (obviously) do the job. Amps? Here again, there's many different ones employed by different players.

Nothing you use or choose will substitute for hard work and talent. Conversely, if you work hard and have talent, it doesn't matter much what you use. You'll be recognized.

Posted: 31 Aug 2008 10:22 am
by Greg Cutshaw
If you buy a Goodrich Model 120 pot pedal, figure on adding $25 to the price and some time to install a new HotPotz from Tom Bradshaw. The pot that comes with the Goodrich will have a very short life.

I have both the new Hilton and the Goodrich 120 pot pedal. Both are awesome and nobody at a live gig will care or be able to tell which one your are using. The Hilton with the built in buffer amp will have bit more treble which can be adjusted out at the amp if needed.

The proverbial change in tone produced as the position of the pot pedal is changed is greatly cancelled out by the fact that most of your playing at a volume people will be able to hear you at, will be at or near a small range of positions.

Greg

Posted: 31 Aug 2008 5:30 pm
by Ric Truett
Jack and Don: I'm going to try my best to be there for the Sept Jam. Thanks to all for your valuable insight!

Posted: 31 Aug 2008 5:51 pm
by Gino Iorfida
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