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Topic: Volume pedals - battery or walwart? |
Brian Pelky
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Portland, OR
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Posted 18 Jun 2008 5:40 pm |
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I'm looking to get an active volume pedal. Any thoughts on whether a pedal has battery only, and not the option to plug into AC? I like the idea of no walwart, but don't want it to be a hassle to change batteries all the time. Thanks in advance.
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Sonny Priddy
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Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 18 Jun 2008 6:24 pm pedal
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| Why Not Just Get A Good Pot Pedal? SONNY. |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 18 Jun 2008 6:42 pm
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| Brian, go with the power adaptor ...batteries degrade the tone over time! |
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Brian Pelky
From:
Portland, OR
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Posted 18 Jun 2008 7:27 pm volume pedal
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Well Sonny, I have heard that the active pedal (goodrich or hilton) acts as sort of a matchbox for impedance matching and helps with sustain and consistent tone from off to full on?
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 19 Jun 2008 2:15 am
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The Hilton is the "class act" of electronic pedals right now. Goodrich had one but discontinued production and thus the Hilton is the one right now. There may be some other pedal, designed primarily for 6 string lead guitar players, but the Hilton is the one for Pedal Steel. It does have a buffer which provides a constant load impedance to the pickup and a low impedance output, no signal loss (like a pot pedal) and the tone is consistent throughout the range of the pedal. There are adjustments for tone, output level and where the pedal cuts off, but the best option is to leave them in the "factory" position. The current model has a small detachable power supply. I've had mine plugged in for over 6 hours, on stage, and the power supply was still cold, never heated up like the old model.
But the big advantage of a Hilton is there is no pot to wear out and have to be replaced and no string to break. |
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Bill Terry
From:
Bastrop, TX
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Posted 19 Jun 2008 7:00 am
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Brian,
The Goodrich L10K and H10K have a battery powered buffer circuit for impedance matching. Not sure about better sustain, but they defintely keep the tone consistent over the full throw. I change the battery once a year just because I think I should. I have no idea how long the battery actually lasts, but it's a LONG time. I hate wall-warts...
The pedal is switched on by plugging a cable in the switching output jack (or is it input?) Whichever it is, I never unplug the cables once I'm plugged in at the gig until I'm done at the end of the night. I usually do between 70-100 gigs a year and the battery lasts that long easily.
I'm sure the Hilton is a fine product, and Keith is definitely a good guy, I just don't need more stuff to plug in and carry around. JMO...
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Don Sulesky
From:
Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 19 Jun 2008 7:41 am
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I find plugging in my Hilton no problem at all.
Most places I play I need my 6 foot extension cord that has three outlets on it.
I use all three, one for my amp, one for my Boss DD5 and the other for the Hilton.
Now tell me how many of you have an amp that does not need to be plugged into A/C. |
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Brian Pelky
From:
Portland, OR
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Posted 19 Jun 2008 7:57 am LDR?
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is it the LDR you're talking about as being discontinued? What do you think of the LDR (not an LDR2)....and what is the difference between the LDR and LDR2?
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 19 Jun 2008 10:48 am
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Brian,
I have both the Goodrich model 120 pot pedal and the new Hilton lightweight standard height pedal. Also I owned the Goodrich LDR2 for a few months. Below are links to some reviews and info on these with lots of pictures that may help you decide. Lately, I've been able to get about the same tone with either the Hilton or Goodrich pedals by making minor adjustments to my amp settings.
Hilton Review
Goodrich LDR2 Review
Goodrich 120 Pot Replacement
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Brian Pelky
From:
Portland, OR
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Posted 19 Jun 2008 11:29 am L10K
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Greg....what do you know about the L10K.....is that gonna have the same tone as an older LDR (not LDR2)? What I'm liking about that LDR is the fact it seems to have a built in 7a with the gain and tone controls on back? L10K is pot pedal isn't it? As good as LDR?
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Larry Jamieson
From:
Walton, NY USA
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Posted 19 Jun 2008 5:52 pm
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Brian,
The way Mr. Goodrich explained the L10K to me was, that the pre-amp built into this pedal would prevent you from hearing any noise which might develop in the pot over time. Yes, it does have a pot, but you can use it a lot longer than he standard pot pedal. I used one for several years with no noise issues, but it finally got not so smooth, and I sold it. I called Goodrich - they said send it to them, and they would rebuild it and return it to me for about $50.00. They are a good pedal, work well, nice sustain, no coloration of your tone, and no wall wart.
Larry J. |
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