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Topic: Is there an E13 type quasi universal lap tuning? |
Greg Gefell
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Upstate NY
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Posted 13 May 2008 6:02 am |
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I have the feeling I will ultimately need a 12 string to pull this off, but... Is there a way to have an E13 type tuning without giving up the D# and F# on strings 1 and 2? I think on 10 string I'd have to give up something on the low end to keep those diatonics. But what to lose?
Basically I want to take a straight up E9 and put a C# in there somewhere, preferably not losing the low D on 9. |
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Stephan Miller
From:
Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 13 May 2008 6:38 am
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Something like this, maybe--
F#
D#
E
C#
B
G#
F#
E
D
E,G#,B...?
I don't think you could say there's a standard E13 for either 8 or 10 strings. There's a nice variety to pick from, though.  |
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Greg Gefell
From:
Upstate NY
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Posted 13 May 2008 9:22 am
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That's a definite possibility. I suppose letting go of the 1st 2 strings could buy me back a low E and the high G#. Thats where my 12 string dilema come into play. I want it all.
If I didn't use those diatonics for easy chording I'd drop em like a hot potato. |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Greg Gefell
From:
Upstate NY
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Posted 13 May 2008 11:01 am
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| Thanks Doug, I did see your posting about this tuning and it looks very solid. I think I'll have to string up some different possibilites and see what works for my style. Writing them out on paper only goes so far. |
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Steve Alcott
From:
New York, New York, USA
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Posted 13 May 2008 9:15 pm
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| To say there are a lot of nice sounds available in the Morrell tuning is the understatement of the year. I got to hear TM a couple of times, both when he was playing a single neck guitar with the above mentioned E13 tuning, and he played more music on that simple guitar than I've heard anyone play with all the pedals and knee levers one could dream of. "Bud's Bounce", "Wills Point" with no pedals. |
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Greg Gefell
From:
Upstate NY
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Posted 14 May 2008 6:14 am
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Steve - can you recommend any specific CD's or videos demostrating Tom using that tuning?
Thanks. |
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Steve Alcott
From:
New York, New York, USA
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Posted 14 May 2008 6:40 am
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| Greg, as far as I know, TM always had the E13 tuning on one neck of his Bigsby. On his single neck Carson Wells guitar (again as far as I know) he used that tuning as well. For examples, check out pretty much all of the "How the West was Swung" series on the WR label, particularly the instrumental albums "Stylin' " and "Relaxin' ". Tunings aside, this whole series (15 vols.) is a "must have" for any player/lover of the steel guitar. I would imagine there are some videos around; nothing "official" though, as far as I know. |
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David Cook
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 14 May 2008 6:44 am
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| HI, What's the advantage of having the G# as the 1st string instead of the 2nd? You can't play the usual slant 9th chord with this configuration, etc. |
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Brad Bechtel
From:
San Francisco, CA
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Dean Parks
From:
Sherman Oaks, California, USA
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Posted 14 May 2008 6:22 pm
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David-
I didn't ask Tommy, but I can guess, for what that's worth(?)
On "Lupus" (from the WolfTracks link Brad just posted), the melody is in octaves... this would be a lot easier with the strings stacked same on top as on bottom. Plus, the logic of playing lines up there is simpler. Also, a 10 string has pretty close string spacing usually... slants are not so easy on adjacent strings ... at least, when I saw Tommy, there was not much, if any, slanting. He used those strings a lot for improvising.
And now that I think about it, separating the E and G# would make the "moving 3rds up the neck" reverse-slants easier, since the strings are further apart.
But I'll let Doug answer, since you were probably asking HIM! |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 17 May 2008 7:41 pm
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One of my 10-str.-tunings, on my Triple-10 Remington is the E9/13:
1. G#
2. E
3. C#
4. B
5. G#
6. F#
7. E
8. D
9. B
10. E
Jerry Byrd worked out Bobby Koefer's tune, “Blue Mist” (played on a Fender T–8 Custom) on his D–8/7 Sho~Bud. I really liked his version, but; rather than Retune 2-necks on my Remington, I worked out my own version on my 10-str. E9/13! (Just 1-neck for the complete tune!) Of course, my version does not use Harmonics, but; it's such a pretty tune that it doesn't have to have harmonics, if they're not really available! I'm hoping my friend can put my home~video version on YouTube soon for someone to see and hear!
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My T-10 Remington Steelmaster |
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