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Topic: Fender Deluxe 8 Volume & Tone Question |
Andy Sandoval
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Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 18 Jul 2006 11:09 pm |
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| The volume on my Deluxe 8 doesn't start comin up until about the last clockwise quarter turn or so. Is this normal, or do I need to replace it. Also the tone control is just the opposite, when you turn it from full counter clockwise to not even a quarter turn clockwise the tone brigthens up considerably, but I kind of like that for some cool effects. It's mostly the volume control that I'm concerned about I guess. What are some options for these pots and where's a good place to find them? |
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Mark White
From:
Michigan, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2006 12:21 am
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| I have two Stringmasters and both tone controls kick in suddenly about a quarter of a turn so I think that's probably normal. The volume controls work normally though. I'm sure other, more knowledgeable Forum members can recommend a good replacement or a way to clean the pots. I know Allparts has a huge selection. |
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2006 1:07 pm
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| What's the difference between audio taper and linear taper? I'm tryin to research it but can't seem to find an answer. I'm probably gonna leave the tone the way it is for the boo-wah effect but would like to replace the volume if there isn't a fix for it. |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 19 Jul 2006 1:27 pm
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Andy
I am be far an expert on technical questions
but I beleive audio gives a quicker or faster change than linear. Fender used audio in all steel guitars plus a .05 resistor.
Today the old round what they refer to now as tubular has been replaced with a small disc which I beleive is .47 Hope this helps |
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2006 1:47 pm
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| At last, an answer from an expert. Thanks Jody. I researched and found a few answers that back up your advice. My volume pot doesn't kick in till near the end of clockwise travel which doesn't sound right to me. Is there any way to fix it or should I just replace it? |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 19 Jul 2006 1:59 pm
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Andy, I am NOT!!! an expert, I'm just old. And Yes, replace the pot. All of my Fender's get that fast doo wah sound as on my Hot Club
recording if that is what you want.
Expert who me??  no way. |
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2006 2:23 pm
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| Yes maybe old, but wise. Thanks again Jody. BTW, I keep a copy of your CD in my truck so I groove on it while I'm cruizin. |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 19 Jul 2006 2:36 pm
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Thank you Andy. I wont disclose my age but I was born in 1929.  |
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2006 2:45 pm
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| This is practically turnin into a private conversasion here Jody. I did some more research and the way my volume pot is workin makes me wonder if someone replaced it with the same pot that the tone uses and maybe reversed the terminals to make it work like that. |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 19 Jul 2006 2:48 pm
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Andy
May very well be Blake Hawkins is a whiz at these technical questions.
Now you see why I have so many posts  |
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Bruce Bindeman
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2006 5:34 am
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Andy,
R. G. Keen has a good description of how to measure pots and understanding the 'taper' of variable resistors (potentiometers or pots).
http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/potstuff.htm http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/potsecrets/potscret.htm
(Go down the page to the section on 'tapering'.
It's true someone could have changed the volume control. I believe you would use a Telecaster volume pot replacement (250K Audio taper with a solid shaft for the knob).
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Fender Deluxe 6, Weber Revibe, Fender Super clone
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 20 Jul 2006 7:36 am
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Bruce
Thank you for the good information. I find it helpful to myself as well. |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 20 Jul 2006 10:38 am
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OK, here goes! On Fender Dual-Pros & T-8 Customs, the Volume-Pot is a 250K Audio~Taper and the Tone-Pot is 1Meg. Linear~Taper with an .05uF/.047uF capacitor between. (Not an expert either, but; a very good friend of Jody Carver!) Does that count?  Andy; It seems your Tone~Control is working properly, but; it might be worthwhile to replace the Volume~Pot. I've used solid~shaft Ernie~Ball 250K Audio-Pots purchased from a Fender Dealer many times for the Volume! Sometimes larger dia. pots are hard to seat in the cavity.
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Current Equipment
[This message was edited by John Bechtel on 20 July 2006 at 11:44 AM.] [This message was edited by John Bechtel on 20 July 2006 at 11:50 AM.] [This message was edited by John Bechtel on 20 July 2006 at 11:51 AM.] |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 20 Jul 2006 11:59 am
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Andy
That is the main source of information from someone who has worked on my pedals. Thank you John |
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Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 20 Jul 2006 2:13 pm
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If someone has replaced the volume pot with a high resistance type, like 1 megohm, the control will be all on the high volume end of the pot. The 250k is the most common for volume.
Some of the old Rick frypans and bakelites had 100 K pots, and low impedence pickups, like around 2000 ohms. The pots seem to have to match with the resistance of the pickup winding. |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 23 Jul 2006 6:41 am
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Bill
Thank you, being a Fender rep,was only part of the story, reading what I have here proves that I didnt know all of this, however all of the volume pots in my Fender Tone pedals are original 250K, those have the open side on the control. Thank you Bill. |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 23 Jul 2006 8:04 am
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| Duplicate Post. |
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2006 10:40 am
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| I wound up using an Ernie Ball ($8.00) 250k audio taper pot and got a smoother volume sweep than I had before so it's workin lots better now. Thanks to all of you for helpin me with this project. Now if only I can get some of those "Jody Carver" licks to come out of it! |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 24 Jul 2006 11:36 am
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Andy
You will and thank you for your words of praise. Practice and it will come.
Thanks again. |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 24 Jul 2006 7:47 pm
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Andy
Dont ever give up. |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 26 Jul 2006 7:02 pm
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Here's a good motto, if you really think about it! “Don't give ‘up’, give ‘in’.”
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Current Equipment
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