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Adding Pedals to a ShoBud 3+1
Posted: 2 Apr 2008 6:52 pm
by Dana Erlandson
Regarding a Sho-Bud Pro I 3+1...
Is adding additional 3 knee-levers
1. Possible...
2. Hard to do...
3. Cost effective..or are am I better off just holding out for a 3+4 to show up.
Posted: 2 Apr 2008 6:55 pm
by Stu Schulman
Dana,My friend Larry Allen has a Pro1 with 3+5 and it plays like a dream,It can be done.Stu
Posted: 2 Apr 2008 7:11 pm
by chris ivey
possible, cost effective and fairly simple once you have the necessary parts!
Posted: 2 Apr 2008 8:10 pm
by Antolina
My 6139 had three levers recently installed by Jeff Surrat over at Show Pro. The cost was $100 per and from my understanding, that's about the going rate.
Posted: 2 Apr 2008 8:11 pm
by Dana Erlandson
I should have added #4 Best place to find all parts...
Posted: 2 Apr 2008 8:13 pm
by Antolina
Jeff Surrat can get you the original parts. Coop custom makes them amd they're beautiful.
Posted: 2 Apr 2008 9:03 pm
by Paul Redmond
By all means, add those KL's. That is one fine guitar and the KL's do go on easily. You'll wind up with an enviable result.
PRR
Posted: 3 Apr 2008 5:55 am
by John Billings
Count 'em! Ricky Davis/John Coop.
Posted: 3 Apr 2008 6:06 am
by Greg Gefell
I have nothing but good things to say about John Coop. He completely replaced a cable undercarriage for me many years back while also upgrading a 3 and 1 into a 3 and 4.
Posted: 3 Apr 2008 6:29 am
by James Morehead
Yes, adding levers is a great way to upgrade your old 'bud. Her's my daughter's '68 I did with Coop parts. Knee kits will run about $125 apiece. A little more than original stock, but well worth the extra bux. The whole undercarrage is John Coop parts, which I encourage to go all the way with. The feel you will get out of your guitar is stunning, and the precision of these parts will help bring out the tone, as there is no slack in this undercarrage. Slack dampens tone.MHO
Posted: 3 Apr 2008 7:20 am
by Antolina
James,
Every time I look at that blondie I get the same reaction... Slobber slobber droll drool
Posted: 3 Apr 2008 7:21 am
by James Morehead
I'll add to this conversation, not to take away from others, but that Ricky Davis is the man for the job---finest Shobud man on the planet, and I'll up ya the moon in that deal to.
MHO
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 10:05 am
by Larry Allen
I have done this to 3 Sho-Buds and a Carter..Easy to add pedals and levers....parts from Duane Marrs store and Coop.....Larry 4 & 5 Extended E9th...
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 10:08 am
by Antolina
Not to hijack the thread but while we're discussing changes, is it possible to put the PF pedal on the old sho~bud pedal bar?
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 10:13 am
by John Billings
RC, given brains, machinery, and time, anything is possible! Of course, you could also get a different pedal rack from Coop. The one on my blondie holds 6 pedals, and would be easy to modify down to four. But the pedals would still be in the rather old-fashioned, more central position. But they're not uncomfortable to play.
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 10:51 am
by Pete Burak
Jeff S. rebuilt my Pro-1 from 3x1 E9 to 7x5 S10U (this was pre-Coop timeframe).
'Came out pretty good, but not as purty as those Coops!
~pb
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 12:18 pm
by Skip Cole
That's beautiful work on both those Buds, fellows. Are the p/u's original or rewound or ??
I put my name in the line for a Jeff Suratt ShowPro. Looking forward to the day when it's fully borned.
Best wishes to all.
Skip
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 12:23 pm
by John Billings
Skip, the pup in mine is original. I think James' might be a Truetone???
My guitar came as a 3/1 with no coil tap. Ricky told me to look and see if there was a third wire taped up and not connected. There was! Ricky put in a coil tap switch.
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 12:45 pm
by mike nolan
RC.....
I put the PF pedal on my S-10 'Bud.... I got another wide pedal from a friend, the rest of the parts came from Coop or Marrs. I needed a longer rod for the pedals, which came from a good hardware store. It took a couple of hours, and works great.
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 2:01 pm
by John Billings
Mike, how about another pic showing the rack from the pedal side? Good job!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 2:12 pm
by Antolina
Yeah, I wanna see how it's attached.
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 7:48 pm
by James Morehead
Skip Cole wrote:That's beautiful work on both those Buds, fellows. Are the p/u's original or rewound or ??
I put my name in the line for a Jeff Suratt ShowPro. Looking forward to the day when it's fully borned.
Best wishes to all.
Skip
Skip, Mine is a Jerry Wallace Truetone, and it replicates the old original shobud pickup about as good as is possible, and I don't have hum issues, either, they are that nice.
Skip, when you get your ShowPro, be sure and share a few pics, ok?? I had the pleasure of meeting Jeff and his bride at Dallas Show this year, and they are the nicest folks you'd ever want to meet.
RC, quit slobberin'--you'll short out your keypad!!
John Good eye on the Truetone. If you ever wanted a coil tap on your guitar, all you need to do is tell Jerry, and he will wind it in as he makes the pup. You can mount it underneath, if you'd rather not drill a hole in your endplate.
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 7:49 pm
by mike nolan
OK, here ya go. This 'Bud is probably really late '74 or earlier '75. It has a slightly different pedal rack than on my '73 LDGs. On this one you can just slide the chrome piece at either end of the pedal attachment to add a longer rod and more pedals.....
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 8:05 pm
by Antolina
Thank you Mike. That explains it all