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Robert Deaton
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Posted 31 Mar 2008 2:57 pm |
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SORRY GUYS,
It's been a long time since last got on and asked for info.But, how do the half stops work? and how do they help?Have a Derby D-10 and it has this capability,but I don't want to mess with them until I understand more.
Only been playing about six years...for those who know Tim Bridges,I bought his derby a couple years back when I lived in VA.
Thanks for any help,
Robert now home in N.C. |
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Jack Stoner
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Posted 31 Mar 2008 3:05 pm
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I think the name "half stop" is a carry over from the old Emmons Push Pull guitar days where you lowered a string a full tone with a feell "half stop" so that you only lowered it a half a tone on the same knee lever. An example is lowering the 6th string from G# to F# which is a full tone, but also only lowering it from F# to G with the "half stop".
On all pull guitars you can have "splits" that only lower the string a half tone or "half stop". e.g. the same example, the 6th string. If you have a knee lever that lowers it a full tone, many all pull guitars have a "split" that will lower it a half tone by first raising the string with the "B" pedal and then lower it with the knee lever and you have a "split" - you raise the G# to A and then lower it a full tone (two frets) and you get a G note (all of this is referenced to open - not on any fret). |
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Robert Deaton
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Posted 31 Mar 2008 3:13 pm HALF STOPS
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thanks Jack,
so does this mean they do not work if it isn't an open note?  |
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Robert Deaton
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Posted 31 Mar 2008 3:25 pm HALF STOPS
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oops,
you were meaning to say the open string to save time and space in going up each fret, I see!
thanks,Robert |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 31 Mar 2008 3:41 pm
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Basically, a half stop is used to make a lever (or pedal) stop half way through it's travel. The most common example is your second string. One of the so-called "standard" knee levers lowers string #2 (E9th) from D# to C#. The guitar builder builds in a method for additional resistance when the lever reaches a D note.
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John McGlothlin
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Posted 31 Mar 2008 3:42 pm
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| Hi Robert. The half stop that I have been used to is mainly referring to the second string on E9th which is a D# and the D knee lever drops the D# a full tone which would then be a C# and the lever has a half stop so you can drop the D# a half tone to a D which plays a big part in getting that original NASHVILLE SOUND. |
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Robert Deaton
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Posted 31 Mar 2008 3:51 pm HALF STOPS
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thanks guys,
I see a little better now.
I also stumbled onto a post that showed the carter set up.and described the setup.
Robert |
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Bill Dobkins
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Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2008 4:24 pm
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Robert, your Derby should have a set of allen bolts to use for split tuning. They are located on top and behind the changer.
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 31 Mar 2008 7:05 pm
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Just to clarify: These are two seperate things
1] Split-tones
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On all pull guitars you can have "splits" that only lower the string a half tone or "half stop". e.g. the same example, the 6th string. If you have a knee lever that lowers it a full tone, many all pull guitars have a "split" that will lower it a half tone by first raising the string with the "B" pedal and then lower it with the knee lever and you have a "split" - you raise the G# to A and then lower it a full tone (two frets) and you get a G note (all of this is referenced to open - not on any fret).
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2] Half-stops
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Basically, a half stop is used to make a lever (or pedal) stop half way through it's travel. The most common example is your second string. One of the so-called "standard" knee levers lowers string #2 (E9th) from D# to C#. The guitar builder builds in a method for additional resistance when the lever reaches a D note. |
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Greg Wisecup
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Troy, Ohio
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Posted 1 Apr 2008 10:42 am
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| Robert, send me the link to the carter set up page you referred to. Thanks, Greg |
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Robert Deaton
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Posted 2 Apr 2008 2:53 pm CARTER SET UP REQ.
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| GREG GO TO SEARCH AND PUT DANNY HULLIHEN IN AUTHOR SEARCH FOR SPLIT TUNING METHODS OR PUT PIT LENZ IN FOR AUTHOR AND LOOK DOWN TO SPLIT TUNING METHODS |
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Patrick Laffrat
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Gemenos, France
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