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Topic: Check out this "British made" Rickenbacker! |
Dan Sawyer
From: Studio City, California, USA
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basilh
From: United Kingdom
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Dan Sawyer
From: Studio City, California, USA
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Posted 21 May 2006 8:41 pm
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Hi Baz. Yes, i knew that, but the seller says it was used as a lap steel. Besides, i thought it would be interesting to all the Ricky lovers here. |
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basilh
From: United Kingdom
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Posted 22 May 2006 12:21 am
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It IS a historic find Dan, just how a UK assembled Rick got back to it's roots could be quite a story.
On a slightly different slant (Ugh), if the guitar HAS been used as a lap steel, it's MOST likely that the neck has suffered the usual fate of these guitars, and is now doing an impersonation of a 'Banana' !!
It looks like this one HAS suffered a similar fate, judging by the lack of 'side on' pictures and the action at the end of the fingerboard in THIS picture. :-
And this one confirms it..
A 'Gary Glitter' neck
Any I've seen have warped and sometimes twisted necks, I presume that's because they were owned by 'Ordinary' guitarists, they tried lap tunings WITHOUT changing string gauges.
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Dan Sawyer
From: Studio City, California, USA
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Posted 22 May 2006 3:41 pm
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Very interesting Baz. Have you seen many of these in the UK? Also, do you have any idea why that one has only a volume knob and no tone? |
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basilh
From: United Kingdom
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Posted 22 May 2006 5:44 pm
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Dan, personally close-up I have seen five, and only one was without the amplifier in the case. I am assured that the model WITHOUT the amp is the more common.
Mine is a 1939 one and the one at Retrofret is between 1936 and 1938.(This guitar also appears to have had the machine head knobs replaced.)
There also were imported and re-badged model B Lapsteels. Funnily enough not as common as the 'Electro Spanish' (Common probably is not the right turn of phrase, as they were and are fairly scarce.)
quote: 1936 Rickenbacker Electro Spanish Model B
Rickenbacker Solidbody Guitars
Pre-War Models
Electro Spanish Model B, available 1935 to 1943.
1935 specs:
Black bakelite body, horseshoe pickup, 5 chrome plates on face, 1 octagonal knob on lower bass bout, detachable bakelite neck with molded frets, string thru body.
1938 specs:
2 round knobs with ridges, one black and one white.
1940 specs:
5 plates on face now white.
Discontinued 1943.
Having now acquired a Fender PS-210 I am disposing of most of my guitar collection, and concentrating on just Fenders. The Gretsch's The Hofner President, Gibson Multiharp, Gibsons EH-185, 150 and Kalamazoo, and some of my Takamine's
See http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum9/HTML/002931.html
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George Rout
From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 28 May 2006 7:45 pm
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Bazz, or anybody, is there some connection between Selmer and Rickenbacker becasue a friend of mine in Nova Scotia has a pre-war Selmer in an "amplified case" but it looks like a Ricki? I don't have pictures of it, but I'm sure I can get some in due course.
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Rick Batey
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Posted 29 May 2006 4:47 am
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George, there definitely was a connection at one time, though past No Peddlers threads imply that Rickenbacker don't care to confirm it.
I recently saw a post-war sheet-steel Model NS in white with a Selmer badge... the horseshoes and pickup also looked Rick-made to me.
Last edited by Rick Batey on 10 Jan 2009 7:19 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Bobbe Seymour
From: Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 29 May 2006 1:04 pm
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Dan Sawyer, just want to say I love your work,
Bobbe |
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Russ Tkac
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Posted 29 May 2006 2:09 pm
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Me too!  |
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George Rout
From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 31 May 2006 5:45 am
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Thanks Rick. And Basil, please take note.....I was just talking with my buddy in N.S. and his guitar is a brown wood finished (just like a wooden Dobro finish) made by Selmer as Serial No. 439, and it's in a case (pictures to come)with the built-in amplifier which sounds just like Basil's picture above in this thread. The amplifier is a Truvoice Sound Equipment S/N 7930 by Henri Selmer & Co. Ltd., 14-116 Charing Cross Rd., London W.C.2. The guitar has Ricky style horsehoe magnets, and has no jack, just the wire comeing out of the guitar per Basil's pic above. I have looked at internet data on Truevoice, but haven't seen any pictures of this. Just wondering if anybody can make any additional comments. I'm hoping to have some pics in a few weeks. An edited additional comment, I should say that my buddy's is a lap steel with a bakelite nut, it's not a Spanish style soldid body. George [This message was edited by George Rout on 31 May 2006 at 06:47 AM.] |
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basilh
From: United Kingdom
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George Rout
From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 31 May 2006 7:54 pm
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Thanks Bas, I had explored that in my first research. When I saw your Ricky non-pedal-non-lap(!!!!) with the case amplifier, it made me think that maybe you had some clues. Thanks buddy. I appreciate it.
Geo |
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Tighe Falato
From: South Plainfield, New Jersey, USA
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Posted 1 Jun 2006 4:52 am
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George.....check out this recent completed eBay auction. Auction on eBay.
[This message was edited by Brad Bechtel on 01 June 2006 at 05:27 PM.] |
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Dan Sawyer
From: Studio City, California, USA
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Posted 1 Jun 2006 11:32 pm
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Bobbe and Russ, thanks so much guys. That means a lot to me. Bobbe, I really enjoy your playing, too. |
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George Rout
From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 3 Jun 2006 12:27 pm
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Thanks a lot Tighe. I've forwarded that to a buddy in N.S. who will show it the friend who owns the Selmer. Thanks again. Geo |
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