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T. C. Furlong


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Lake County, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2008 4:52 pm    
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Assuming that knee levers on an e9th set up go like this:
1st knee: lowering 4th and 8th strings
2nd knee: raising 4th and 8th strings
3rd knee: lowering 2nd and 9th strings
5th knee: lowering 5th and 10th strings

What would the most commonly found change on the remaining knee lever be?

I'll start...raising 1st string a whole tone and 2nd string a half tone.

Thanks in advance.

TC
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James Collett

 

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San Dimas, CA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2008 4:56 pm    
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Raising 7 & 10 1 semitone
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Chuck Thompson

 

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Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2008 5:09 pm    
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i raise 1 a whole step 2 a half step and lower 6 a whole step
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Herb Steiner


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Post  Posted 16 Feb 2008 5:25 pm    
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I raise 1 and 7 a 1/2 step on one guitar, and I raise 1 a 1/2 step and lower 6 a 1/2 step on another guitar.

That lever also raises 3 and 7 on C6 1/2 step on both guitars.

I only raise the first string 1/2 step because, being an old fart, I play lots more Mooney licks than I do Paul Franklin licks. And a 1/2 step raise on both necks feels a lot more balanced on PP guitars.
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Larry Strawn


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Post  Posted 16 Feb 2008 5:53 pm    
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I raise 1 a 1/2 step, and lower 6 a whole step.

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Tony Dingus

 

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Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2008 6:59 pm    
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I raise 1 and 7 a whole and 2 a half on one guitar and on another, 1 a whole 7 a half. I'm planning on setting it up like guitar #1.

Tony
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2008 7:05 pm    
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When I was learning, the F# to G on strings 1 and 7 was the norm. Today, I think that lowering the 6th string G# to F# is more common.

I've never had much use for raises on the top two strings. Those raises are popular on modern country records, but I don't play that kind of music.
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Bo Borland


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Post  Posted 17 Feb 2008 6:23 am    
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My old steel had a lever that raised #1 F# to G, I would get the G# with the bar.
On my Derby, I currently raise #1F# to G# and #2 Eb to E.
The way I have the pull adjusted I get a half stop on the F# raise with no mecahnical 1/2 stop.
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Ulf Edlund


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Post  Posted 17 Feb 2008 7:11 am    
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I raise 1 and 7 a whole and 2 a half.
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2008 9:34 am    
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Whats becoming common is the Raise 1 a full tone, 2 a half tone and 7 a full tone.

I find the G lower a conflict on this lever with the 1st string full tone raise. I prefer the 7 raise.

but as usual, each can find there way.
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2008 9:48 am    
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Tony Prior wrote:
Whats becoming common is the Raise 1 a full tone, 2 a half tone and 7 a full tone.

I find the G lower a conflict on this lever with the 1st string full tone raise. I prefer the 7 raise.

but as usual, each can find there way.

Turns out that the 6th string lower (to F#) is more popular. See the poll.
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Rick Kornacker


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Dixon Springs, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2008 10:25 am     you got it!
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Hey T.C.! I think you knew the answer to that question before you asked it! The first and second string change works well with other standard pedal changes..probably is(or will be)the next modern "standard" change after the fourth(PF)pedal.Keep up the good work on the "Soundstage" thang and give my regards to old friends in cold country.Regards, RK Cool
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C. Christofferson

 

Post  Posted 17 Feb 2008 10:49 am    
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Another forum member said he had this on his guitar and I am going to add it as soon as I round up another bellcrank. My fourth lever currently only has a 6th string lower on it so I want to add a 2nd string 1/2 step lower to it (my 3rd lever already has the common 2nd string 1/2 and 1 step lower with a feelstop), so that at times there can be a fast accurate 2nd 1/2 lower cause I use it alot.
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