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Topic: B string raise to D?.............. |
Jerry Hayes
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Posted 24 Dec 2007 1:19 pm |
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I've been thinking of experimenting with a different change on my guitar.
For my D note now I tune my 9th string to C# but raise it to D on a lever.
How much difference is there by raising the 10th string B to D as in lowering the 8th string E to D. Which would require the most movement? The B raise to D or the E lower to D?.
I want to do this on a BMI S-12 and the LKR lever I want to use doesn't have quite enough room for the lower, it comes in at around 444 on my tuner. I use a .030 for the 8th string E and a .036 for the B...... JH in Va.
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Jon Light (deceased)
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Saugerties, NY
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Posted 24 Dec 2007 1:49 pm
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| I used to have both on my semi-standard U-12. By necessity, the B>D raise shared a lever with my open 2nd string D>D# raise which I use a lot. The result was premature breakage of the B string so I got rid of the B raise. If I recall correctly, the B>D raise was a shorter throw than the E>D lower is. At the time I used a .036. I now use a .038 which would make for an even shorter throw but I would expect an even shorter life, too. I occasionally consider putting the B>D back on but it would have to be on a dedicated lever or one that saw less action. |
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Mike Perlowin
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Posted 24 Dec 2007 3:51 pm Re: B string raise to D?..............
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| Jerry Hayes wrote: |
| the LKR lever I want to use doesn't have quite enough room for the lower, it comes in at around 444 on my tuner. |
Jerry, have you tried moving the rod to a different hole in the bell crank?
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 24 Dec 2007 8:51 pm
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Mike, the LKR lever on a BMI is a different animal than all the other pedals and levers. They all attach to flat pull bars which rest against the top underside of the guitar. On the LKR lever the flat cross pull bar is about an inch from the top of the guitar and the bell crank(s) are facing upward instead of down like all the others so there's not enough room for a full bellcrank and the two that came on the guitar were shortened by the factory. When I originally got the guitar it was set up in a Uni tuning and the LKR raised the 1st and 7th F# strings to G so there was plenty of room for that pull. I have a deal going which is almost clinched on an old wood body MSA S-12 which has 4 floor pedals and 5 knee levers but the guy has the other 4 floor pedal assemblies. I wanted to put my regular set up on that and put a standard Universal tuning on the BMI. I really didn't want to have the 8th string lower to D on a floor pedal but it just won't lower all the way on the BMI so who knows, maybe I'll just put the UNI on the MSA as I don't think I'd have this same problem with that guitar.....JH in Va.
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Last edited by Jerry Hayes on 28 Dec 2007 7:30 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Mike Perlowin
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Posted 25 Dec 2007 3:02 am
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Jerry. the MSA will work very well as a uni, but if it is a double raise double lower changer, you might want to install two of Tom Bradshaw's conversion devices on strings 5 and 6. These convert the changer on those 2 strings to a triple raise, single lower.
They work great, need no maintenance, and have no problems. I've had them on my guitars for well over 10 years.
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Paul Redmond
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Illinois, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2007 10:35 pm
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I've had the B to D pull on #9 on both of my BMI's as an individual, dedicated pull. I use the pull only when desired and I've never broken a string yet. If you're using it with #2, yes, you'll break a lot of #9's as you use the 2nd string pull 10 times more than the 9th string pull. Best to add the 9th string pull to a 'dedicated' knee lever and use it accordingly.
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 28 Dec 2007 7:29 am
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Thanks for the help. I think I'll just go with the E to D lower on the MSA and use that for the Uni and leave the BMI as is..........JH in Va.
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