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Topic: Ca. My Pal Garth Brooks- Staples Center -Five Shows-benefit |
LJ Eiffert
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Posted 23 Jan 2008 8:02 pm |
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| My Pal Garth Brooks keeps the Music Industry on it toes.Garth is always thinking big in anything he does.His compassion is deeper than most people in this world,knows.After being around him with out all his security people for over 15 years or more who really get in the way of who he really is,just as a person to me,he is always kind.And My Late good friend Buck Owens loved Garth.I am proud of him for what he has givin' to Country Music and the Steel Guitar Musicians he has givin' jobs.I will be there on 1/26/08 to visit with him.He is doing this Benefit for the California Wildfires and fund future firefighting and to bring to some Southern Spirit.I can't wait to see who is playing Steel Guitar with him. Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. & Pigeons |
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Dale Bessant
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Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 23 Jan 2008 8:32 pm
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And just what excactly has he given country music?
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LJ Eiffert
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California, USA
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Posted 23 Jan 2008 10:19 pm
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| Hello Dale Bessant,with respect to you.I know Garth hasn't givin' you anything personally,but,for his fans and Country Music Business Industry & our Country here The United States he loves as well as I,He is the Biggest and greatest part of why a few select get rich from him.For me,what I have with my pal Garth Brooks is not his MONEY-Friendship,it his real friendship that is worth more to me then his MONEY.Maybe,what you really wanted to ask me is what has he done for Canada? Thanks is forum friendship. Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 6:12 am
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That post is hard to follow - the main fact I've gleaned from it is that LJ seems to know him personally.
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LJ Eiffert
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California, USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 6:45 am
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| Hello Roger,Yes,I know Garth very well.But,you need to read a little deeper to what Dale's Question is.That would be like me asking you,what have you done for your neighborhood?,in the good for Country Music on Steel Guitar. I'm just tired of everybodies Negative spirit for what others are doing to keep messing up thr truth. Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. |
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Joey Ace
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 7:05 am In Defense of Garth
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I don't know Garth, but I have great respect for the man that played on his records, Bruce Bouton.
Five years ago Bruce responded to a similar "Garth Bashing" thread on the old Forum.
Here's what he said:
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since I've played on every Garth Record I can probably speak with a bit of authority. I won't render an opinion on peoples taste in music cause that's what makes the world go round.However, for someone to call Garth Brooks records big pop productions they must not be listening to the rest of pro-tooled country radio. All of the Garth records were recorded on 24 track analogue tape and mixed on a Quad Eight board without automation. Most of the time the songs were charted as we listened to Garth play them on an acoustic guitar. Many times the records you heard on the radio were the actual recording, vocal and all , that happened on the take. Now for the guys that recorded in the sixties and seventies that was the status Quo.Back to the truth. Also Garth never used any vocal tuning on his records. You can actually hear flat and sharp notes on some of the performances. Try finding that on any on todays records. Also most of the reverbs came from an actual chamber.We never recorded with a clicktrack because Garth and Alan felt like it took away the feel.Basically everything we did was so under produced that it made Garths records sound different than anything else on the radio.There were alot of parts I wished I'd played different or better but in retrospect it didn't matter.
As far as Garth's success being the resul;t of slick marketing well.... I guess if working three hundred dates a year and never charging over fifteen dollars a ticket(While the average ticket was forty bucks)and doing free concerts in each market during the day for the sick and handicapped was slick marketing then more power to him.I'm obviously biased in favor of the man and I can't believe I'm wasting my time with this rant but I feel like I need to shed a little light on things.Garth Brooks takes nothing for granted and he's one of the nicest and most loyal people I have ever met.
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You can read the entire thread here:
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum15/HTML/002112.html |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 7:18 am
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I wasn't 'bashing' Garth - I don't particularly like his voice, but there's a lot worse out there; I was trying to figure out what LJ was saying.
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Dale Bessant
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Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 7:33 am
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opps! I wonder what ever happen to good old "Sandy"...Don't know anything about the man, may be the best human on the planet,don't know, don't care, don't like his style of "Country Music" or the direction in which he helped take "Country Music" to....
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Ron Page
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Penn Yan, NY USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 8:49 am
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I'm not a big Garth fan (beyond is first two albums), but I have to say he was among the first I can recall who made an effort to lookout for fans by trying to limit ticket scalpers access to his concert tickets. He was the first I ever heard demand that line numbers be handed out and then a random drawing would determine which number was the "front" of the line.
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Dale Bessant
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Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 8:59 am
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Joey,
BASHING ? 
A statement was made about Garth's contribution to Country Music, I asked for clarification....He may be a super guy, he may be wealthy, he may be a heavy weight in today's country music,but what has he brought to Country Music, that others before haven't?
A ton of people love his music, I for one don't care all that much for it.... I thought that this is what this forum was about,discussing ideas and personal thoughts?
Great super, I hope it raises a lot of money for the Firefighters, Lord knows they are underpaid and risk thier lives doing what they do....and if anyone can draw a crowd, it will be G.B. 
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Doc Rickles
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Tuscaloosa, Alabama, USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 10:10 am Garth
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Jesus loves him and you and thats all that really counts. And thats all I have to say about that.
Doc
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Joey Ace
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 10:31 am
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Perhaps "Bashing" was too strong of a term, if so I apologize.
I was just seeing into the future a few posts, based on past experiences here. |
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Dale Bessant
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Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 11:10 am
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Amen, Doc...
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Kevin Mincke
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Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 11:42 am
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I'm with Doc on this one......the only connection I have with Garth would be my mothers close girlfriend in OK (where she was born/raised) was his fifth grade teacher and remarks he was just an average kid......probably like most of us growing up  |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 2:57 pm
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| I like Joey's last line! Point taken, Joey... |
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LJ Eiffert
From:
California, USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 9:38 pm
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| To all you wonderful out-side forum brothers,I get the picture what you guys love to play on,and that's Okay! If you read what I really said,you would under stand that I'm posting to the Southern Califorina Brothers & Sisters.But again,if you can't say anything good about somebody,then you have the right to say all the bad things you want.That shows what kind of respect is in order and sure helps heal the pain of real,what?....Ps; I answered back with respect to what was address to my topic. Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 10:36 pm
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| Now I'm really confused!!! |
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LJ Eiffert
From:
California, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 7:14 am
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| Hello Roger,Now I understand what wrong out side our Neighborhood.The truth is nobody really knows Garth or myself has to what we do in this Music Business besides sleeping good at night.That should help you understand brother,be happy & God Bless those who can't help themself understand what I say.Drop me a line.Wait,wrong word,line. send me a letter to P.O.Box 5412,Buena Park,Calif.90620 and I'll send you what you don't understand about me.With Respect for the love of our Steel Guitar and Country Music that in me. Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. |
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Scott Henderson
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Camdenton, Missouri, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 7:23 am
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Don't know Garth but I do know one thing. He is probably one of the best marketers in any business. My cousin worked for Garth for the whole stint before "retirement" He was a big boost for country music when they needed it. Maybe the first step in getting more people to respect old country is to at least give them the respect of freedom of expression. I totally agree that GB is a very caring person and that's more improtant to me than genre or style.
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Dale Bessant
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Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 7:42 am
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I'm totally confused now as well and I just cant seem to grasp this thread anymore,outside forum brothers?, California brothers & sisters? L.J. I thought you telling the whole Forum about G.B. putting on some benefit concerts in California for the firefighters, I didn't realize it was meant to be a regional post, sorry, I'll move on now....'nuf said....hope it all goes well...
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Ron Page
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 7:56 am
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Little off-topic, but I see LJ lives in my former neck of the woods. We lived in Buena Park in 1965-1967, before my parents bought a home next door in Anaheim.
I hope the benefit for the SC firefighters is a huge success.
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LJ Eiffert
From:
California, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 8:56 pm
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| Hey Dale, it is for the world to read,but,you're the one who turn it around by saying,what has Garth done for Country Music with I think a little disrespect to under mind what I said on the topic instead of cheering him on for his given.Also,the California brothers & sisters who know me out here,sometimes this is the only time we get to see each other and that is why I said I wonder who he {Garth}has that will be playing Steel Guitar.Maybe,again I knowing Garth & Sandy personally,it hunts me too, to see them not together,but,as long as they are both happy then that's all that matters. God Bless,Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. |
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Howard Tate
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Leesville, Louisiana, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 7:08 am
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| It was aired on CBS last night. I watched part of it but when there was no steel I switched to Johnny High Country and caught Reece. It's great that he's doing a benefit for the firemen. |
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 1:00 pm
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I've been a fan of Garth's since his first hit "Much Too Young (to feel this damn old)" hit the charts. He brought a lot of folks over to country with his high energy stage shows which before him had been seen mostly in only the rock field. He always had a high caliber band and treated and paid them well. I know one of his guys (keyboard/fiddle player Dave Gant) from my old SoCal days and he's one of the better players on the plantet!
I did watch the CBS special last night and I'll have to admit that I was a little dissapointed with it. Garth seemed to be out of tune and out of breath on his vocals most of the time but his fans probably didn't notice as in a live show of that size there's so much noise and other distractions going on that you can't really hear it like you can on a TV broadcast. The folks there seemed to be really into it and I did enjoy it. I taped a special he did years ago and kept it in my files but I don't think I'll keep this one. It would've been nice to have a steel player on the show, if there was one, I didn't hear it.......
I have all of Garth's albums and the box set and enjoy them a lot. There are a bunch of great stuff that didn't make the singles chart if you look for them and a whole bunch of steel guitar to boot! One of my personal favorites is his arrangement of the Fleetwoods' old hit "Mister Blue". That was one of the best things I'd ever heard and country to the core!.........JH in Va.
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LJ Eiffert
From:
California, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 11:08 pm
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| Hey Jerry,no need in being disapointed with Garth.He's been pushing his body dial tone over drive.He'll tell you himself he not a great singer,he a super Entertainer.For 45 years old,man,you got to give it to him Jerry,he was just have a big jam session of fun for a big cause and with that he should be respect for.>>> I had a great visit with my(our) good friend Dave Gant and he looks good and is playing great.We (Dave) talked about all the great times we had in pickin together on sessions and the Night Club scene and about all us old dude,even you. Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. |
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