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John Troutman


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Washington, DC
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2007 11:30 pm    
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hey guys:

i am searching for cajun pedal steel copedents but had trouble locating them in the archives. can someone direct me to or provide me with some basic copedents?

thanks so much,
john
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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 7 Dec 2007 12:52 am    
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John, check this out Click Here
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John Troutman


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Washington, DC
Post  Posted 7 Dec 2007 7:34 am    
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thanks andy! i guess i should clarify, though--i'm looking for a copedent for 10 string neck, not a 12...
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Jerry Hayes


From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 7 Dec 2007 8:57 am    
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John, I've always thought that the best Cajun Steel copedant was the good ol' E9th. Nobody plays that style any better than Ralph Mooney. If you were playing a lot in open D or G maybe a D9th with the same pedal intervals as an E9 would do the trick. I think it's more the player than the tuning.....JH in Va.
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Billy Wilson

 

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El Cerrito, California, USA
Post  Posted 7 Dec 2007 9:18 am    
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It's like a dobro tuning but with a high G in top. Stay away from pedals.
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Jody Sanders

 

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Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 7 Dec 2007 11:00 am    
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Jr. Martin in Lafayette,La. is the world authority on Cajun steel guitar. Jody.
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John Troutman


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Washington, DC
Post  Posted 7 Dec 2007 12:08 pm    
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yeah, i need to find a way to meet jr. martin, that's for sure. i just moved down here this fall (well, i was here a year earlier but was way too busy with work to play) and got interested in the tuning. i figured there would be some sort of easily available copedent, but maybe i should just tune up my deluxe-8 to a G with a high G on top, as billy suggested (thanks billy). but i've heard a lot of stuff on KBON, the local station, with a pedal steel tuning. so i got curious about it. if anyone else has ideas, i'd be happy to hear them--thanks!
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Dean Parks

 

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Sherman Oaks, California, USA
Post  Posted 7 Dec 2007 12:19 pm    
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Tom Brumley has a 0 pedal that moves low str 10B and 7st F# both up a step, which I read he uses for a Cajun thing.
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Pete Cormier

 

From:
Eunice, Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 7 Dec 2007 2:58 pm    
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John
Contact Roy Thomas in Maurice,La. His Ph.#
is on his website. Type in Pedalmaster Steel Guitars
Roy builds them all around here. He will have your
correct answer.
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Stanley Benoit

 

From:
New Iberia,Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 7 Dec 2007 4:42 pm     cajun tuning
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John, If you can't get in touch with JR let me know been doing the cajun thing for many years. Stanley
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billy tam R.I.P.

 

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baton rouge, louisiana
Post  Posted 9 Dec 2007 6:49 pm     cajun steel
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John, Every Sunday from 2 0r 3 til 7 Danny Cormier play in Breaux Bridge @ (the Dust--in French) with Jackie Callier a grammy award winning cajun musician. He knows all about the cajun tuning.
thanks,
Billy
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Daniel J. Cormier

 

From:
Lake Charles, LA, USA
Post  Posted 10 Dec 2007 7:12 am     Cajun tunning
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Most guys down here use either an open G or F with an A/B pedal setup. Sometimes they use a knee lever to lower the F or G a half tone. I use a C6th tuning and hold the 7th pedal for a open G and the 6 th pedal and a knee lever to get an open F.Top neck on my guitar is standard E9th Emmons setup.
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John Troutman


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Washington, DC
Post  Posted 16 Dec 2007 12:34 am    
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hey guys:

thanks so much for the help. i finally gave it a shot tonight and played at kate's in butte la rose. i decided to stick with an E9 tuning and see what i could do with it, but i like daniel's suggestion for getting the G on the C6 neck. i'll probably try that next time. the hardest part for me was getting those rhythms down--some of the Cajun tunes have some pretty unusual rhythms for what i am used to, but it was tons of fun. for you local guys, i hope to run into you soon enough!

john
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Daniel J. Cormier

 

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Lake Charles, LA, USA
Post  Posted 16 Dec 2007 8:11 pm     Cajun tunes
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Those cajuntunes don't follow meter most of the time. It's alot like trying to play Celtic jigs on a steel guitar. It takes some guys a long time just to get the timing down.You almost have to be born around it to understand where it comes from.
DJC
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John Troutman


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Washington, DC
Post  Posted 16 Dec 2007 8:37 pm    
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i think the meter is what's most interesting and challenging when approaching these songs as someone who is new to it. when i started to concentrate on what the accordion was doing, it made more sense to me...
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Daniel J. Cormier

 

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Lake Charles, LA, USA
Post  Posted 17 Dec 2007 7:00 am     You all come
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Hey John
I play in Breaux Bridge every Sunday afternoon from 3-7 pm.Give me a call and I'll save you a seat Wink. My cell is 337 794 8731.
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Rittenberry with Tone to the bone,profex or tubefex and what ever amp, hilton pedal, BJS bars. Email at kajunsteelman@yahoo.com.
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