The Steel Guitar Forum

I do not play Pedal Steel, I play lap Steel. I want to learn Pedal Steel licks/runs/speed techniques etc.to add to my lap steel knowledge.
Which of the numerous Pedal Steel instruction courses out there would give me the licks/runs/speed techniques etc. on CD so I can learn them by ear? Has anybody have these on CD/tape they wish to sell?

Many of Joe Wright's materials will translate to lap steel. The right hand instruction and spreadsheet come to mind right away.

http://pedalsteel.com/joe/

Keep in mind that the E9 pedalsteel has a very particular sound that doesn't sound much like a lap steel at all. Come to the Texas show and pick a pedal steel out. Buy 2 and sell one back home to pay for your trip. The pound is pretty powerful at the moment.

Many of the speed or roll single note licks on E9th are being played not only with the help of pedals and levers but also with the inclusion of the so called "chromatic" strings (strings 1 & 2).
If one wants to immitate some of this playing on non-pedal steel, one may have to replace some of the pedal moves by including open strings as much as possible and also contemplate adding "inside out" strings to the tuning.
Check out Maurice Anderson's tuning which is C6th based and has almost the same "chromatics" (only relative to C as opposed to E).

... J-D.

Alot of them can't be done on non pedal.

The biggest issue is not that they can't be played, which in many cases the A/B Pedals are indeed intragel , the issue is more of hearing phrases and being able to identify where those phrases come from on YOUR Instrument, which requires two things, a GOOD EAR for recall of the phrases and a GREAT knowledge of your Instrument so that the recall phrases can be applied.

You can have the best ear on the planet but if you have limited knowledge of your Instrument you will still be spinning in mud.

I remember a young guy years back came up to us on a break and told me he was a gifted player, he could play any Instrument by ear . I handed him my picks and bar and said go ahead show me, he sat behind my ProIII and a blank stare came upon him. Then he said..I could play this Instrument if I knew what all these pedals and Knee levers did !

Ahh..Brilliance finally emerges...

I bought him a Beer..

tp

Me thinks my video having the "Look at Us" lick explained is by Lloyd Maines.

The starting pozition for the intro to "Look at Us" is by no means intuitive according to this video. Lot's o'luck finding that one, even by accident.

think C Pedal

Thanks for the info.to the question.

Mike

I am not a great player. One reason, I hated cassb methodette tapes all the stopping starting rewinding never to the sam spot, brought out my ADHD very quickly. Not to mention the speed issues and meshing the guitar and the tape. So I went tthe tab method, to my regret. I enjoy playing with Cds the song I like. The best and I think this is true with any instrument. Play with a group. I didn't Why? well all otf the folks I wound up with new every song by heart fro about 1900 to now. The did not understand why I didn't and why I wasn't already a working muscian. Also I was 34 when I started probably should never have. I also ran into my share of drunks and ego driven leaders once again it could have been my age. As bad as I play. I still am intriguded by the instrument, but go with CDs and the ear.

Some of my most plesurable moments come when I put on some favorite Cds and manage to find the right chords.