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Topic: What do you call this tuning? |
D Schubert
From:
Columbia, MO, USA
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Posted 23 Jan 2006 8:30 pm |
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Changed my 8-string to this tuning, low to high...
F A C E G A C E
You can probably tell that it's 10-string C6th with the 1st & 10th gone. Do you still call it C6th?...or is it Fmaj7/9? |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 23 Jan 2006 8:39 pm
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| Most people call it a C6th. |
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Bill McCloskey
From:
Nanuet, NY
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Posted 23 Jan 2006 10:49 pm
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Whatever you decide is the "One" of this tuning, that is what you would call it. If the 1 is C then its a C6 tuning. To me this tuning is:
3
1
6
5
3
1
6
4
But it really depends on how you see it.
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Jeff Au Hoy
From:
Honolulu, Hawai'i
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Posted 23 Jan 2006 11:51 pm
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| I wanna call it "F major 7" because of that F down there. It could be C6 with an F, but isn't the IV of any chord a strong emphasis in another harmonic direction? |
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Bill McCloskey
From:
Nanuet, NY
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Posted 24 Jan 2006 3:25 am
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No,
As in Reece's tuning. It just allows you easy access to the 4 chord in the same fret location as the one chord. |
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 24 Jan 2006 6:41 am
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I would have thought that the bottom note pretty much defines it !!.
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Bill McCloskey
From:
Nanuet, NY
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Posted 24 Jan 2006 7:02 am
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Why?
The bottom note of my 12 string tuning is a D but it is definitely an extended c6th tuning. In my sacred steel tuning, which is basically an E tuning, it has a B on the bottom. |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 24 Jan 2006 10:14 am
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| While you can play an F maj7 9 chord because of that bottom string, you can also play many other chords. That particular chord does not seem to define the whole tuning just because of that one bottom note. Starting from the top, you go through 7 strings and two ocataves without ever encountering the 1. Also, you cannot play the relative minor (Dm). Whereas, considered as a C6 tuning, you have both the major and relative minor chord available in two octaves, and have two roots for both the major and the relative minor. Many tunings have a 5th or other note on the bottom, but are not named for that note. |
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Jeff Au Hoy
From:
Honolulu, Hawai'i
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Posted 24 Jan 2006 2:01 pm
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| I like to derive a name for a tuning by strumming across it and seeing which way it "pushes" me harmonically. |
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Rick Alexander
From:
Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 24 Jan 2006 5:26 pm
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| C6/FM7 |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 25 Jan 2006 12:33 am
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Am7/FM7! Just pulling your strings¡  Actually, I always just say: “It’s a C6th., with an (F) on the bottom”! [Kinda like, I don’t think it belongs there!] It always gets me over the hump!
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’05 D–10 Derby
’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin–Reverb Custom™ 15”
Current Equipment
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 25 Jan 2006 2:28 am
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Strange, with all the different names it's getting, I still hear it as F based chordally.
If I tell myself it's C, then it sounds "Unresolved" (To me)
We are dealing eventually with the sound !! even 'though the post's title is "What do you CALL this tuning"
well I call it a variance of F Maj9..
[This message was edited by basilh on 25 January 2006 at 02:32 AM.] |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 25 Jan 2006 6:35 am
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I call that tuning "Marvin." 
Leaving the humor for a brief moment, in professional chord charts and lead sheets, chords are often designated with what bass notes to include. For example, it's common to see "F/G." meaning an F chord with a G note in the bass. So the bass note does not necessarily determine what the chord should be named.
And I'd much rather put the emphasis into knowing how to play the tuning than I would in knowing how to name it. Anyway, to me that's a C6 tuning. Unless the chord I was playing in the arrangement was a FM9, then I would say it's an extension of an F chord.
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[This message was edited by Herb Steiner on 25 January 2006 at 06:37 AM.] |
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 25 Jan 2006 8:34 am
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Herbster...I relate most closely to you comments about knowing how to play the tuning, and Herb, I know you are correct regarding the alternative bass notes, it's just if I strum the open strings, I hear an F chord rather than a C with and unresolved bass note. Whist "F/G" is complete and fine, the C with the F sounds unfinished whether you strum it up or down !
I can fully understand the Steel Guitar fraternity in general calling this tuning C6 because the C6th tuning on the PEDAL guitar has always (Or nearly always) had the low F included. Not so in the Non Pedal world.
The question was what would we (as individuals) call this tuning, and I would call it as I've stated.
even the post's originator "D.Schubert" seems to think that an F variant might be the name ..
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| Do you still call it C6th?...or is it Fmaj7/9? |
I think that Fmaj7/9 is unnecessarily long as the Fmaj9 designation would (Albeit by omission) include the Maj7th.
At least that's how we interpret Fmaj9 over this side of the pond ..F9= flat 7th Fmaj9=natural seventh..
[This message was edited by basilh on 25 January 2006 at 08:38 AM.] |
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