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Bell Cranks For 3/8 Round Shaft

Posted: 13 Nov 2007 10:08 am
by Phillip Telford
I need thirty bell cranks that will fit a 3/8 round shaft. Is there anyone who might sell this type of crank at a affordable price? Thanks,
Phil.

Posted: 13 Nov 2007 10:24 am
by Terry Gann

Posted: 13 Nov 2007 10:29 am
by Phillip Telford
I've contacted them, but the cranks are a bit expensive for me at this time.

Posted: 13 Nov 2007 8:29 pm
by Gary Shepherd
I should be set up within the next week to start making stuff on my mini mill. What EXACTLY do you need? Got any drawings?

Posted: 13 Nov 2007 8:34 pm
by Michael Hardee
You might check with Roy Thomas at Pedalmaster guitars to see if he still has the old style MSA bellcranks in stock.

Posted: 14 Nov 2007 10:40 am
by Phillip Telford
This is a rough sketch of what I want made. Sorry for the poor drawing.Image[/img]

Posted: 14 Nov 2007 1:58 pm
by Gary Shepherd
Something like this?

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Posted: 14 Nov 2007 2:03 pm
by Kevin Hatton
Linkon wanted $10.00 out bellcrank! Outrageous.

Posted: 14 Nov 2007 2:09 pm
by Gary Shepherd
Sounds reasonable to me. There's a lot of work involved in making just one.

Posted: 14 Nov 2007 3:05 pm
by Kevin Hatton
I have mine made for $3.00 each here in Buffalo.

Posted: 14 Nov 2007 3:51 pm
by Phillip Telford
The picture you posted is what I want except, I don't want it hollowed out where the slots are. Kinda like the old MCI guitars.

Posted: 14 Nov 2007 4:27 pm
by Gary Shepherd
This one then?

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So I guess your pullrods have a bend on the ends of them rather than going THROUGH the bellcranks, right?

Posted: 14 Nov 2007 4:41 pm
by Gary Shepherd
Do you need the screw hole tapped?

Posted: 14 Nov 2007 9:50 pm
by Phillip Telford
That is exactly what I want. If you want to tap the bell cranks, I would want them to be a 8/32 thread. I already have the allen screws.
That picture is awesome, Thanks Phil.

Posted: 14 Nov 2007 9:53 pm
by Phillip Telford
If you get a chance, please e-mail me with a quote. Thanks Gary for your time and efforts,
Phil.

Posted: 16 Nov 2007 7:22 pm
by Gary Shepherd
I'll see what I can come up with. Got other stuff going on right now though.

Bell Cranks

Posted: 17 Nov 2007 1:55 pm
by Steven Black
I would like to get some bell cranks like these for my project, Gary shepard let me know when you are setup to make parts. Steveb.

Posted: 17 Nov 2007 2:21 pm
by Gary Shepherd
I'm trying to get walls up on my workshop right now. (From my computer, break time.) I should be ready to go in a few days now.
gs

Posted: 17 Nov 2007 3:29 pm
by Mathias Lundqvist
I might also be interested. Good luck with your work shop constructing!

Posted: 18 Nov 2007 4:36 pm
by Peter Freiberger
Here's something I just saw on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/CUSTOM-MACHINED-BEL ... dZViewItem

Posted: 18 Nov 2007 7:24 pm
by Gary Shepherd
I saw that myself. I wonder if someone made them recently or if they're originals. In any case, I had some time tonight so I gave it a whirl. Here's what I came up with - without the slot or tapped screw hole. I also moved the crossbar hole over a little and that may have been a mistake. I guess I'll know when I try to tap a screw hole.

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I had tried it a few nights ago but I was trying to cut too deep on each pass. My 1/4 HP motor couldn't keep the end mill turning. So I backed off to 0.01" passes. Also used some WD-40 for coolant at the suggestion of a more experienced miller. Worked pretty well I guess.

Posted: 19 Nov 2007 9:53 am
by Gary Shepherd
Hey Phillip, can you measure the distance between the shaft hole and the side? I need to know how much thickness to leave for the threaded screw hole.

Posted: 19 Nov 2007 10:19 am
by richard burton
Can I put my 2 cents in ?

I think it would be more advantageous to make the bell cranks as per my sketch, as
a) the crank can be tightened much more firmly, essential on a round cross-shaft, and

b)the cross-shaft does not have to be removed from the steel to fit new bell-cranks, and

c) that's how I used to do it when I was building steels :D

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Posted: 19 Nov 2007 10:31 am
by Gary Shepherd
I don't see what's wrong with this...
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It's not as strong as Richard's, but it's a lot easier to cut, is still pretty strong and doesn't require removing the crossbar. One more screw hole could be added horizontally to screw into the crossbar. I think that would be pretty stable - no turning on the crossbar.

Posted: 19 Nov 2007 1:03 pm
by Phillip Telford
You probably would need to drill the 3/8 hole about an eighth of and inch from the back and bottom of the crank. Your latest design would work better if you made the slot at an angle. Instead of it clamping on to the shaft, you could use a set screw that would push against the shaft. I don't know if you ever seen a Blanton bell crank, but he made them that way and they were very effective.