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Topic: Sho-bud on E-bay, only 1 knee lever, but not a maverick |
Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 11 Nov 2007 3:18 pm |
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Item #270185563827
Can this guitar be upgraded to 4 or 5 knees and a modern changer? It looks like it would be a really nice guitar if it can.
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Bob Hickish
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Port Ludlow, Washington, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 11 Nov 2007 3:35 pm
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Mike
from the photo of the changer its a barrel setup .
the upper row is rase & below lower .
If its what I think it is
& from what I know about them it is posable to rase
or lower any combo you want , I would say yes , you
could put what ever you want on it .
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Jon Hyde
From:
Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2007 8:40 pm
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| Mike, that looks like a 6139 (a 6143 is double neck - "the Professional"). Rack and barrel undercarriage, basically a single neck professional. I think with a minimal search you could find that a lot folks think this is one of the best sounding Sho Buds. I got one on Craigslist here in Seattle and, using vintage parts I got from Duane Marrs, I upgraded it to 4 levers. Great guitar... |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2007 9:22 pm
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| That's identical to my first steel. I sure wish I still had that....but with the mod you're talkin' about. |
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 12 Nov 2007 12:53 am
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Looks like a 6139, but the sticker inside says it's a 6140, which was the 6 pedal version. i wonder if the other pedals were removed somewhere along the line. A pic of the underneath should answer that.
Nice gtr, though. |
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2007 8:49 am
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Skip, the pedals on the 6-pedals steels were closer to the changer end, so I doubt this has been converted. I'd like to see a pic of the undercarriage, but it looks like the blond version of my S-10. My guitar came with one knee lever. It now has 6. To see my Davis/Coop modded guitar, and also to see a 6 pedal guitar I'm restoring, go to this thread and scroll down to the last few entries.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=120831
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 12 Nov 2007 12:11 pm
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Hey John...
Yeah, I know...but they moved them to the left a year or two before they discontinued the model. Same thing with the 6139. The one on eBay doesn't have the volume & tone pots and the split switch on the back shelf, so I think it may be a later model. I've got a really nice 6139 that I bought new in '72.
I've always thought those 6140's were cool guitars, maybe better suited to be a single neck C6 or a 10 string version of Sneaky's B6 tuning. The rack and barrel undercarriage on the 6140 didn't leave much room for attaching a bunch of left leg knee levers, though.
btw, the one you're restoring looks very cool...I bet it sounds great. What's the underneath like? Two-hole pullers? |
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2007 12:19 pm
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Skip, the underneath is really primitive baskets and barrels. That's why I refer to the guitar as a "Pre-Pro". Very crude sandcastings. Coop says late '67. Lemme see if I gotta pic. Here's one with the rods out.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2007 12:24 pm
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Mine was a 6139, bought new in 1974. Those racks were noisy! Clank-clank. I removed any that weren't actually pulling strings.
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 12 Nov 2007 12:52 pm
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Wow...I don't think I've ever seen racks like that before.
The later models had the standard racks, like you'd find on the Professional. I've only seen a couple 6140's like yours with the wood surrounding the changer. Most of the ones I've seen seem to be a later vintage, with the metal pickup/changer surround.
I always liked the rack and barrel system, with it's simplicity and the ability to have multiple changes on the same rod. A little noisy, and a bit clunky, but it seemed to get the job done...even if you couldn't really time the pulls like you can on a modern system.
One thing for sure..these old singles sure sound good, and they don't seem to be losing any value as time goes by. |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 12 Nov 2007 1:36 pm
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This guitar almost makes me wish I played a 10 string instead of a 12.
I hope somebody here buys it and fixes it up right.
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Ben Elder
From:
La Crescenta, California, USA
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Posted 13 Nov 2007 10:43 pm Sorry to puncture a balloon, but...
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Somewhat OT:
The Hunter S. Thompson quote is about the >TV< industry and this line
"And there's also a bad side"
is apocryphally not part of it.
"The TV business is uglier than most things. It is normally perceived as some kind of cruel and shallow money trench through the heart of the journalism industry, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs, for no good reason."
I happened to look it up myself in the HST book below just yesterday. (It's also posted slightly inaccurately here at the picketer-beset Television City tape library and I set about trying to reconcile the versions.)
("Generation of Swine Gonzo Papers Vol. 2: Tales of Shame and Degradation in the 80s," p.43 in the paperback version). "Full-time Scrambling" is the saga of HST's newly-installed giant pre-DIRECTV satellite dish just as signal-scrambling was being initiated industry-wide.) |
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