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Topic: Re-furbishing old amplifier |
Fred Glave
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McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2007 7:57 am |
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| I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question, but...What is the best way to remove old Tolex? Or maybe it is better, or okay to apply new stuff right over the old stuff? |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2007 10:17 am
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| Heat gun, preferably on the low setting, a putty knife, some pliars. Don't put the new over the old. |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2007 10:20 am
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It depends upon what glue is holding Tolex on now.
Contact cement -- heat gun and pull off with the help of a spackle blade or even a metal spatula.
Hide glue or similar, cover with damp cloth to introduce moisture and apply a very warm to hot iron.
Keep your old pieces for patterns and for someone else on the Forum who may need one panel replaced on a beat up amp. For example, Doug Beaumier needed some old Tolex for his Vibrolux a few years ago as I recall. |
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Tim Whitlock
From:
Colorado, USA
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Rick Johnson
From:
Wheelwright, Ky USA
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Posted 19 Oct 2007 6:36 am
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Fred
There is some good info already provide.
Here is what I do.
Rip off the old tolex, the old glue is
dried out anyway. Scrap off as much
remaining material as possible.
You need to get down to the wood as
best you can. Belt sand the flat areas
with 60/80 grit paper, use a random orbit
sander with 60/80 grit paper to do all
edges. Don't worry about saving it
for a pattern. I have a formula
to cut tolex by.
This will get you started.
I made a home video a few years ago
of how to apply tolex/tweed to a cabinet.
I've let a lot of people borrow it.
I'd be glad to let you borrow it.
Its not hard to cut the corners but
its easier to let you watch than try
to explain it here.
I've got plans to put it on my website
for anyone to down load but just haven't
got around to it.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Rick
www.rickjohnsoncabs.com |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 19 Oct 2007 7:46 am
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Fred, check with Rick. He's the best! Here's one he did for me.
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James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 20 Oct 2007 7:58 am
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Hey John, That's SWEEEET!! Here's mine that Rick did for me.
Living proof that Rick has a talent for building cabs. |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2007 7:29 pm
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Howdy to all, we are on vacation in Oregon!! Just saw this post and could not resist the opportunity to share the method I used on a recent amp I restored.
Fender amps and many others had the Tolex applied with hyde glue. I helped a friend cover a lot of cabinets with this glue a few years back using the correct glue and a Potdevin machine (hot glue machine like Fender and others have used). The glue is water based animal glue.
For years I have pulled the Tolex off and sanded. It occured to me recently that this as not necessary. I just did a Super Reverb. I pulled the Tolex and used a spong with warm water to loosen the old glue and remaining fabric residue. I then used a wide metal scrapper to remove the glue. Washed the cab up with warm water, dried it and sanded with 120 grit paper. Came out perfect!!
Like Rick, I use DAP water-based contact cement. Hyde glue would be the best and same as the original but it is too hard to work with without the proper machine to melt the glue and apply it to the fabric. |
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