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Here's a Fender I've never seen...

Posted: 7 Dec 2005 8:12 am
by Bill Leff
What is it?
Vintage Fender 8 String Steel Lap Guitar on eBay.

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Posted: 7 Dec 2005 8:28 am
by Bill Hatcher
It is just a Fender 400 that has been poorly refinished--you can see the brush marks around the edge of the chrome--and some bogus red crap has been glued to it along with a logo that probably came off a case from the 60s/70s. I emailed the seller about not including all this refin junk in the description and he emailed me back me back and called me a nasty name.

Maybe early 60s right before the cam style 23" scale 400 came out. Does have the rollers on the bridge and nut so it is surely a later version.

Posted: 7 Dec 2005 9:00 am
by Jeff Au Hoy
For the stuff I play, I actually think this would sound better than a Stringmaster, though it wouldn't be as versatile.

Posted: 7 Dec 2005 9:26 am
by Joy Wofford
Ok. I suppose this is a dumb newbie question, but something in the sellers description I don't understand? First he says it's a lap steel....ok....but then later he talks about (and has pictures)of pedals. I don't understand? Is this a pedal steel, or a lap steel? Or both? I honestly have never heard of this, so want to know if they make something like that? I know you can put legs on a lap steel....but once you put on pedals, isn't it a pedal steel?

Thanks ahead of time for any clarification you can bring to me on this.

Joy

Posted: 7 Dec 2005 9:28 am
by Herb Steiner
This is one of those guitars that someone handy with paint could do something with. Or someone who wanted to learn or practice refinishing with paint. The guitar looks like it's all there, except the bridge cover and the first string wire loop, so I think it's a candidate for restoration.

Take off the red felt, respray the frame with more black, strip and repaint the body, and... you'd have a guitar worth about $500 maybe. Good for the vintage tone, though it'd have to be in D9 tuning.


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Posted: 7 Dec 2005 10:17 am
by Bill Hatcher
Jay. The seller does not know much about this instrument.

Posted: 7 Dec 2005 10:20 am
by Stephan Miller
Joy-- it's a pedal steel all right. I guess you could think of it as a "lap" if you played it minus legs and pedals-- but it's incorrect for the seller to call it that.

Posted: 7 Dec 2005 10:42 am
by Joy Wofford
Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me Stephan and Bill. Thought I'd missed out somewhere on some vital info.

Posted: 7 Dec 2005 10:50 am
by John Billings
Herb, would it still have to be in D9? It does have a roller bridge and nut. I thought the rollers were to prevent the string breakage caused by the previous design.
JB

Posted: 7 Dec 2005 11:57 am
by Keith Cordell
I had one of these, and it took a pretty tight tuning. Don't see why it would have to be D9.

Posted: 7 Dec 2005 3:04 pm
by Bill Leff
Jeff, why would this be better for the "stuff you play" vs a Stringmaster? Just curious....

Thanks
Bill

Posted: 7 Dec 2005 3:13 pm
by Bill Creller
Maybe Jeff isn't a stringmaster guy, I'm not after the D8 I had. But I have heard some good sounding ones that didn't seem so treble.

Posted: 7 Dec 2005 4:22 pm
by Jeff Au Hoy
I just feel those fat 400/1000 type pickups sound much fuller and richer (whatever those terms mean!) than those of the Stringmaster. Also better balanced throughout high and low.

Posted: 12 Dec 2005 7:46 am
by John Billings
It's up to $538.00!!!!!

Posted: 12 Dec 2005 9:58 am
by Bill Hatcher
I am not surprised. Mavericks sell for over $500 all the time there.