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Topic: Relocation of Country Music |
Doug Childress
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Orange, Texas
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Posted 25 Sep 2007 1:18 pm |
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| I guess I'm wondering if the center of classic country music (western swing) etc. has relocated to Texas. From what I see happening on the forum posts, there is so much going on down here with the Johnny High Show on RFD, Johnny Cox picking with so many groups (Texas Playboys, Jody Nix), Darrel McCall all around the State, Johnny Bush, Justin Trevino, Bobby Flores, Jake Hooker, all the great steel players, Tommy Detamore, Dicky Overby, the recording studios, the Austin Texas scene, so many opry style shows, it just seems to be exploding. It's a pretty good time to be a musician in Texas. |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2007 1:33 pm
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There has been three camps for country music for quite a while; Nashville, Texas and Bakersfield, CA.
However, Texas is the only place that hasn't forsaken its roots.
Long live Texas! |
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David Biggers
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2007 3:29 pm
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Amen to that.........
God Blessed the entire USA with a bunch of good ole country boys........
I happened to have been raised on it so its natural to me...
Oh and please say your prayers for my favorire steel man, John Hughey who is under the weather with a heart condition.
I know you'll tough it out John.
We all love ya man!!! |
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Roger Edgington
From:
San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2007 4:12 pm
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Joe Butcher
From:
Dallas,Texas, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2007 5:16 pm
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Youre damn right......some of the best country music youll ever hear can be found here.......Nashville ruined country music, IMO anyway.......you can still play
old school honky tonk here and people dig it......Oklahoma has some good stuff too. You also have access to great players/teachers...Reece Anderson, Junior Knight, Gary Carpenter......all just a phone call away. Not to mention Carter steel and MSA.
I could go on, but I dont wanna make you guys jealous!!
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Ron Elliott
From:
Madison, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2007 5:30 pm AMEN
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| I agree with all of you guys. I have been so very fortunate to have made a pretty good living in Nashville....when it was real country music,...but I have always loved Texas and loved playing music in all the clubs and venues there. But you guys are absolutely right....country music didn't die,...the business ran it out of town,...and it went back to Texas. Just another country music fan & player. Thanks for letting me horn in. Ron Elliott |
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Bobby Caldwell
From:
St. Louis, Missouri, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 25 Sep 2007 5:38 pm
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| What Ron said. Bobby |
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Willis Vanderberg
From:
Petoskey Mi
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Posted 25 Sep 2007 5:38 pm
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They not only got great music out there ., They also have a bunch of good pickers named Jody, That includes both of them...LOL.See y'all in Huston in November..
Old Bud |
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Doug Childress
From:
Orange, Texas
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Posted 26 Sep 2007 8:54 am
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| I firmly believe that if your music is tied to a culture that it lives as long as the culture lives. Texas has a culture known worldwide and people who come here expect certain things especially where music is concerned. I believe that serves to perpetuate the longevity of Texas Honky Tonk music. I agree that Oklahoma and Bakersfield California still crank out some pretty good "roots" music. I have a feeling that what all these locations have in common is several things: 1. Bob Wills' music which ran the trail from Texas to Oklahoma to California. 2. The mass migration from Texas and Oklahoma to California during the "dust bowl" and the great depression. These migrants carried their music with them and it came back in the form of Wynn Stewart, Merle Haggard, Buck Owens, and a steel player by the name of Ralph Mooney. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2007 9:02 am
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| And let's not forget Bob Wills' brother, Billy Jack Wills, who had a western swing band in California. |
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Carroll Hale
From:
EastTexas, USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2007 9:06 am
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long live texas and western swing......
the best of the best.....if this stuff
dont make yo feets move......YOU must be DEAD..
and thanks to all those good tejas musicians who
are keeping it alive..... |
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James Cann
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 26 Sep 2007 9:50 am
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| I firmly believe that if your music is tied to a culture that it lives as long as the culture lives. Texas has a culture known worldwide and people who come here expect certain things especially where music is concerned. |
Good point, Doug, and it suggests Nashville culture as perhaps having always been the business of the thing vs. Texas's performance/enjoyment thing. While everyone comes to Nashville 'trying to sell songs and make it big," everyone comes to Texas for the "music, dancin' and drinkin'."
So now, which sandbox is probably more fun  |
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Richard Douthitt
From:
Coxs Creek, KY, USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2007 9:24 pm
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Get em' fired up Doug! You know I love ya and Texas music too. I am thinking about selling the Wife and Kids and moving to Texas!
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Jim Walker
From:
Headland, AL
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Posted 26 Sep 2007 10:08 pm
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Texas has been calling my name for years. I spent a few days in Austin back in 03' and I didn't want to leave. Hopefully I'll get to spend my last years in Texas, I will be moving there someday.
JW
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Brandon Ordoyne
From:
Needville,Texas USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2007 3:39 am
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“You go to hell, I’m going to Texas.” - Davy Crockett
When Tennessee voters didn’t return David Crockett to the US Congress in 1836, Crockett said this to his former neighbors.
Dont forget about Dale Watson!! True Texas honky-tonker!
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Doug Childress
From:
Orange, Texas
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Posted 27 Sep 2007 4:55 am
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Wichita,
You would be a welcome addition as a Texan. I've heard you play and sing those shuffles!! Thanks for chiming in buddy. Being from Kentucky as you are...you probably have relatives here since a lot of the first settlers allowed in by the Mexican Government were from that state. We could check your pedigree and get back to you. |
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George Piburn
From:
The Land of Enchantment New Mexico
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Posted 27 Sep 2007 5:30 am edit
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Terry Wood
From:
Lebanon, MO
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Posted 27 Sep 2007 5:52 am
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I have alot of friends in Texas and relatives. True there are alot of great super steel players, singers, etc. in Texas.
I am gonna stick my MO neck out now and and say there are also alot of other places where Country Music and Western Swing are alive and doing well!
For one here in MO we got a group they call themselves The Jazza-billes and they can rip Texas Swing Music as good as I've heard. The group includes: Scotty Henderson on steel, Jimmy and Starla Queen, Ron Blaker, John Terry (part-time), Big Dave Owens and others. They are great Swing and Country players. In fact, they can play anything you'd what to hear.
Also we also got a thing down the road a piece from me called Branson USA. I played there a while and in Nashvulle before semi-retiring and beginning to teach school. There are some pretty good players and singers down there too.
I love Texas and might retire there some day but don't foget some of us MO peoples too. By the way some of ya'lls folks at the Alamo and founder fathers of the Lone Star State orinially hailed from Missouri. 
GOD bless the USA!
Terry Wood |
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Doug Childress
From:
Orange, Texas
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Posted 27 Sep 2007 7:08 am
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| I love Texas and might retire there some day but don't foget some of us MO peoples too. By the way some of ya'lls folks at the Alamo and founder fathers of the Lone Star State orinially hailed from Missouri. |
Terry we never forget those who were the founders of the Republic of Texas. Especially those at the Alamo and San Jacinto. Your point is well taken about Missouri musicians. One thing that I see with Texas musicians and performers is that even though they achieve "star" status they tend to keep Texas as their home base e.g. George Strait, Mark Chessnut, Tracy Byrd, etc. It is considered disloyal and unpatriotic to defect to the "other world". |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 27 Sep 2007 7:58 am
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I don't think there has been a move. It's always been this way. There seems to be way more live country music, and definitely more western swing in Texas and nearby states than there ever has been in the Southeast. In the Southwest the middle and even upper classes seem to enjoy and support country and western music. But in the Southeast the middle and upper classes have always looked down on country music. This also applies to things other than music. In Nashville they have a famous steeple chase, and they have show riding and Walker horses. And in Kentucky they dress up and go to the Derby. In the Southwest everyone, including wealthy ranchers, puts on their jeans and goes to the rodeo. The only problem I see with all the oppotunities for country musicians in the Southwest is that there are so many good country musicians already there, I'd still be lookin' for a place that would have a hack like me.  |
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Terry Wood
From:
Lebanon, MO
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Posted 27 Sep 2007 8:41 am
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Hi Doug,
Yes, after they achieve prominent status they often stay in Texas. I understand this and also realize you all got alot more places to pick than we do.
How true this is I do not know, but I have heard that one can have a hit record/song on Texas radio stations and never have to get air play elsewhere? Is that true? I heard this was because you all had so many of the larger radio stations there?
Some of my favorite people and especially singers and players hail from your lone star state. Some of my favorites were Bob Wills, Waylon Jennings, George Jones, Buddy Holly, Jim Reeves, Johnny Horton, Billy Walker to name a few singers and steel players Herb Remington, Bobby Garrett, and my good friend Reece Anderson.
I just wanted to point out that alot of other great Country and Western Swing players are in other areas of USA. We all got to stick together and educate the rest of the world.
Terry Wood |
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Doug Childress
From:
Orange, Texas
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Posted 27 Sep 2007 10:16 am
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| How true this is I do not know, but I have heard that one can have a hit record/song on Texas radio stations and never have to get air play elsewhere? Is that true? I heard this was because you all had so many of the larger radio stations there? |
Terry, unfortunately most of the stations in Texas that are in large markets have been contaminated by the major labels coming out of Nashville. The good thing about Texas is that some of the rural stations will play "roots" music. Most of the guys picking and performing in Texas have their own websites and market independently which in my opionion demonstrates the attitude of Texas in general. |
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Roger Edgington
From:
San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2007 10:26 am
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| We don't have places anymore like there was back in the 60s. MADD has killed a few of them. Sometimes we drive 100 miles or more. People here really like to dance,even young boys. If you want to fill the floor here, just play a shuffle or a fast waltz. I love Texas. After being stationed here in the USAF, I left, but it pulled me back to stay. |
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Doug Childress
From:
Orange, Texas
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Posted 27 Sep 2007 10:49 am
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Roger,
I am extremely glad that you came back and made your home here. We need to continue to hear the music that you play with Billy Mata. By the way hurry up and visit with us at the Southeast Texas Steel Guitar club again. |
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Ron Randall
From:
Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2007 6:04 pm
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I was born lucky. fifth generation Texan.
The music scene is busy, and the sounds are wonderful. Great players, great bands, great artists, teachers, guitar makers,....
Never a dull minute. |
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