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Jackiso

 

From:
Yokohama, Japan
Post  Posted 21 Oct 2005 1:39 pm    
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It seems removing the horseshoe pickup is the only way to make access to the volume pot. Is this right? If yes, would it simply be taking out four small slotted screws, two each at the side of the thumb screws, and pulling out the pickup assembly? Any risk? To replace the pot, what would be the proper resistance, 200k, 250k, 500k or 1meg?
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Jack Isomura
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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 21 Oct 2005 1:50 pm    
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Thats correct ...

But first make sure you take off the knob ...

Then remove the retaining nut from the existing volume pot and 1/4" jack ... and push them both back into the cavity of the pan.

Then lift the entire assembly out as one unit.

As far as potentiometer values ... its a personal choice:

250K will be mellower than 500K ... 1 Meg will be the brightest ...

Alot of the early ones used 100K ... but personally I feel that rolls off too much high end.

Hope that helps ...

PS: If you find the pan filled with a black resinous material ... try not to disturb it ...

Or you will be sorry (stinky stuff ... creosote like stuff).



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Jackiso

 

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Yokohama, Japan
Post  Posted 21 Oct 2005 3:38 pm    
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Wow! it's a great advice, Mr. Frypan. Thanks a lot.
BTW, would you also advise how I would get an octagonal shaped Frypan knob or any look-alike?
Jack Isomura
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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 21 Oct 2005 5:42 pm    
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I'll make you one ... they are real tough to find.

Send me an email with your mailing address.

I have to do some of that kinda work next week ... promised a bunch of guys I'd make some of those Supro magnets ... and was so busy with the "convention steels" ...

I'm alittle behind ...

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Jackiso

 

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Yokohama, Japan
Post  Posted 22 Oct 2005 3:13 am    
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Fabulous!! I feel very privileged that my Frypan will have a custom made knob. Splendid! Thank you so much.
Jack Isomura
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wt golden

 

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Houston, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 22 Oct 2005 9:15 am    
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I have an Excell JB Frypan - but I don't like where the tone knob is. I have thought about putting a dual concentric pot where the volume pot is and having vol and tone live there - but all I can find is 500K dual pots. What difference will that do, if the original tone pot is 250?

And on another note if I only had one pot (like some of the early fry-pans had) what happens to the tone then - is it full open or full closed or can I set it (with the understanding that it will stay that way because I don't have a potentiometer for it any more)

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wt
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wt golden

 

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Houston, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 24 Oct 2005 7:23 pm    
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I'm going to bump to see if anyone knows the last issue here.

thanks all

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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 25 Oct 2005 4:35 am    
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The concentric pots will behave just as two singles ... so the 500K will be alittle brighter than the 250K ...

The value of the capacitor can be increased ... say from 0.022 mfd to 0.047 mfd ... or from 0.047 mfd to 0.10 mfd (mostly used on bass guitars) ... that will tame the 500K abit.

I put a 0.010 mfd into a Ricky S100 for a gentleman who prefered a very bassy, mellow tone and he loved it ...

As far as just using a volume (eliminating the tone pot/cap) ... your signal will be bright ... basically the same as if the tone pot is wide open ... maybe a tad brighter (which I personally enjoy).

Two fixes if thats too bright ...

A) Drop the vol pot to 250K or even 100K ... that'll help ... and you'll get more bassy as you roll off volume.

B) You can jump a low value capacitor across the 1/4" jack (hot lug to sleeve lug) ...

This will permanently lock you into one particular "tone" though ...

So picking up a variety of different capacitor values and some alligator clips ... would be advisable ... and then you can experiment until you find the sweet spot that pleases you.

A guy sent a "volume only" steel to me once ... he complained that it was just too shrill.

I placed a 0.005 mfd capacitor there (jump the hot to sleeve on 1/4" jack) ... and he was quite pleased with the result.

I like bright ... but to each his own ...

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[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 25 October 2005 at 08:29 AM.]

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