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Topic: Are there any chord charts available for different tunings? |
Kristen Bruno
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Orlando, Florida, USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 5:15 am |
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The various tunings i have seen show what to Open tune each string to and what each string should be when the pedal (or knee) is moved.
Are there any pictures/diagrams available that show what the actual chord(s) are formed along the open strings after these pedals are depressed? Preferably in Number Format rather than letter format, since it is more universal. Would help me a lot. Knowing this i can easily transpose as I move the bar.
Like in this TOTALLY MADE UP EXAMPLE, I woam looking for a diagram that would show :
If the Open tuning chord is an "A" (or "1") and you press footpedal 2 it becomes a "D7 (or 4-7th. and if you press footpedals 3&4 the chord become a "Emi (or 5-mi). Or if you press pedal 1&4, the first 5 strings would be a "D9" (or "4-9th") and the last five strings would be a "Em7th" (or a "5-mi7th).
Any charts of this type around? Am I offbase?
Again, the above was totally made up!
Hopefully the description of the type of Picture/Chart I am looking for is clear.
It would be nice to have a picture for both 10 string and 8 string configuration, if possible.
Something like this would get me into some chord accompaniment quickly.
By the way if this is posted in the wrong forum area please advise and I will repost in the correct area.
Thanks
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Larry Bell
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Englewood, Florida
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 5:37 am
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Sure there are, BUT
MAKE YOUR OWN
You will learn a lot in the process. It's not rocket science. Just learn how to spell the chords (Maj = 1 3 5; mi = 1 3b 5; Dom7 = 1 3 5 7b, etc.) then make keyboard charts of each individual pedal and lever, then each useful combination. If you're savvy in a spreadsheet program like Excel, it works GREAT and you will have them so you can modify and print easily.
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Dan Burnham
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Greenfield, Tennessee
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 5:47 am Yes
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Kristen,
You are in luck. Clicktab is the software you need. If you will goto www.beckmusicalinstruments.com (then) goto links (then) goto the bottom you will see a hyperlink to Ron's site.
This is the best software I've seen for chord structure. Should you get it, spend some time with the manual.
Dan
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Tamara James
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 7:57 am
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| Larry Bell wrote: |
Sure there are, BUT
MAKE YOUR OWN
You will learn a lot in the process. It's not rocket science. Just learn how to spell the chords (Maj = 1 3 5; mi = 1 3b 5; Dom7 = 1 3 5 7b, etc.) then make keyboard charts of each individual pedal and lever, then each useful combination. If you're savvy in a spreadsheet program like Excel, it works GREAT and you will have them so you can modify and print easily. |
I agree. I am a beginner. I am just doing this as a current lesson. I have made my own chart. Learned a lot and I retained it. My set up is different from yours, as I only have 3 pedals, but the same principle applies. Writing it out myself really got it cemented into my mind. Simple mathmatics. |
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Jim Eaton
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Santa Susana, Ca
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 8:41 am
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E9th tuning - use stg 3-4-5, 4-5-6, 5-6-8, 6-8-10 (major chord grips)
Open = E --- 1
BC ped = F#m - 2
E-EbKL = G#m - 3
AB ped = A ----4
Bped/EbKL = B7----5
Aped = C#m---6
JE:-)> |
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Tamara James
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 9:26 am
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| Jim Eaton wrote: |
E9th tuning - use stg 3-4-5, 4-5-6, 5-6-8, 6-8-10 (major chord grips)
Open = E --- 1
BC ped = F#m - 2
E-EbKL = G#m - 3
AB ped = A ----4
Bped/EbKL = B7----5
Aped = C#m---6
JE:-)> |
Thanks, Jim! This will fill in the rest of the chart. I just need to do it for the rest of the frets. I can't believe I understand your post. I have come a long way in 2 months. Your post is appreciated.
What would the B pedal alone do in E9?
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 9:36 am
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When I was getting started I found this useful:
http://www.buddyemmons.com/CE9CV.htm
Joe Wright made an excel spreadsheet that I use all the time.
Joe's site seems to be down at the moment but somebody out there must know how to track down his materials.
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Jim Eaton
From:
Santa Susana, Ca
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 10:16 am
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The B pedal by itself would be a Sus4 chord of the open fret,in my example it would be Esus4, but it will want to resolve to E.
The first example was based on starting on a "pedals up" chord position and what was available using pedals and kl's at one fret.
By using all those same pedal and kl combinations at 2 different frets, you can play all the same 6 chords for the key of E using a pedals down home position.
Pedals Down - Key E
E = 1 = 7AB
F#m = 2 = 5A
G#m = 3 = 7A
A = 4 = 5 no ped
B = 5 = 7 no ped
C#m = 6 = 5/E-Eb KL
Then when you add in the A ped/F KL major positions, it starts to get fun, maybe next time.
JE:-)> |
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Tamara James
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 12:51 pm
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| Jim Eaton wrote: |
The B pedal by itself would be a Sus4 chord of the open fret,in my example it would be Esus4, but it will want to resolve to E.
JE:-)> |
If I am understanding correctly, That is why I play "rock-a-bye baby" with the pedals when I have played fret 5 A&B down, some cord, rock off b and play a pedal down, then no pedal. OR visa-vera going higher in pitch. That is the progression from major cord, to the minor, which causes tension, to the resolve. NICE. I hear it, but never thought about what it was doing. Should work for any cord, if that progression is what your are looking for. I'm still not sure what Suspended actually means, but I don't think I have to. I just wanted to fill in the rest of my chart with cord names, which is what this thread is about. Cord charts.
Thanks. |
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Dickie Whitley
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 3:52 pm
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Last edited by Dickie Whitley on 23 May 2013 3:01 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Ron Turner
From:
California, USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 6:05 pm
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| Thanks Dan for the plug. The good thing is you can down load the manual before you buy which is very well illustrated. |
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A. J. Schobert
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Cincinnati, Ohio,
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 6:35 pm
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Kristen,
This may not be what you are after but I would check out the skobrien chord calculater on the web I have lost the website since I will try to find it, it is a very good website.
On there web you could punch in your pedals or knees and hit enter it is very user friendly! |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 8:02 pm
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Wow, I was hoping to find what I was looking for as well...
Rats. Windows only.
Maybe someday someone can port something out to us Mac guys Creating my own spreadsheet is NOT an option, and since I use a couple of unusual B6 copedents the usual stuff sold by the "name" players is of no use at all!
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 23 Aug 2007 9:39 pm
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I found this on Ricky Davis's site:
www.mightyfinemusic.com/
click on "chord finder"
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2007 10:06 pm
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Sheesh - 20 8 string tunings on that site, but not Sneaky's B6...one of the few 8-string copedents listed on THIS site. Well, it DID look like his 8-string stuff was console/lap oriented.
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Colin Mclean
From:
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
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Posted 25 Aug 2007 10:37 pm
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Here is the skobrian site.
http://www.skobrien.com/ChordFinder/ChordFinder.asp
I have it saved on my "favorites" sidebar and use it every time I play, being a beginner and all. Very helpful, and now all those crazy chords I've been playing all these years on 6-string guitar have names, lol. |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Gil Berry
From:
Westminster, CA, USA
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Posted 27 Aug 2007 12:58 pm
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| Do a search here for guitar map.... by Karlos Abolins. A nice software tool to do what you're asking for.... |
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