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Too much sustain?

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 6:31 am
by Greg Gefell
I have a solid body electric lap steel that has oodles of sustain. Normally its a great thing and I wouldn't trade it for the world. On a couple of new songs though I'd like to have a tone with considerably less sustain, more of a resonator or acoustic guitar type sustain. Has anyone experimented with different bars to achieve this,or placed anything under the bridge saddles to achieve this effect?

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 6:44 am
by Matt Johnson
I know what you mean, sometimes you want a quicker, more acoustic-type decay on an electric steel. Try using a glass bottleneck-style slide, a light wooden tonebar, or a BIC lighter ( :wink: ). A big, hollow glass one works well for me for this purpose.

I guess a basic general guide is the lighter the bar, the less sustain there will generally be. But it does impact the tone, for better or worse!

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 7:34 am
by Rick Alexander
You could try wedging a small piece of acoustic foam under the strings, right up against the bridge.

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 9:59 am
by Terry Gann
A stomp box graphic EQ with one slider all the way up, the next all the way down gives me sort of a hollow, resornator effect. The energy is pulled out of the pickup reducing sustain as well. Anybody use that trick?

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 10:12 am
by Roman Sonnleitner
I got a bullet bar made from some plastic stuff (acrylic?) on Ebay a while ago, and with that thing I can get a very "acoustic" tone with less sustain.

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 10:17 am
by Ed Altrichter
BOBRO

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 10:38 am
by Greg Gefell
These are all great ideas - I'll try them all and see what works best for me. Thanks

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 11:39 am
by Jim Bates
In addition to all above, turn off any reverb and delay.

Thanx,
Jim

Sustain Killer

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 12:54 pm
by Andy Zynda
Danny Gatton used to use an old 6L6 tube.
It gives a very nasal, poorly sustaining tone.
Perfect for certain types of music.
-andy z-

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 1:30 pm
by Jon Light
Everything above, for sure. Lower density bar material (lighter weight). Less polished surface. Technique can help, too---lighter grip on the bar and lighter pressure on the strings. This all can result in lower fidelity---as in 'lo-fi'.

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 3:44 pm
by b0b
A glass bar does the trick for me. I use it a lot, actually.

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 7:56 pm
by Don Barnhardt
Try a piece of 3/4" PVC pipe.

Posted: 21 Sep 2007 1:12 pm
by Pat Piette
An old recording trick for a muted slide is place a strip of cloth first aid tape to a stevens bar. It'll sound like an old fender Jaguar mute. Especially if the pickup is really hot. The other thing you can try is a thin piece of suede.

Posted: 21 Sep 2007 3:52 pm
by chris ivey
try peanut butter on the strings...

Posted: 21 Sep 2007 9:29 pm
by Kelvin Monaghan
Get one of Gary Boyett's Glass bars that will do it for you.They give a nice lite tone with less sustain a more accoustic type tone.Cheers Kelvin