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Steel Pedal Guitars??

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 9:47 pm
by Jim Cohen
Well, we've all heard our uninitiated friends refer to our beloved instrument as a "Steel Pedal" Guitar, and I usually correct them gently but firmly ("Uh, you mean 'Pedal Steel' Guitar").

Well! NOW, I find out that even LEO FENDER called it a "Steel Pedal" Guitar! Check out these two PATENTS!!!

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT3136198

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT3352188

What are we to make of this unwelcome news?!

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 9:55 pm
by Dave Mudgett
Well, we could make like ostriches and simply refuse to accept its existence. I don't think this would be a big stretch. ;)

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 9:57 pm
by Jim Cohen
My plan exactly!

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 11:26 pm
by Stu Schulman
Jim,I just did some Steel Pedal session work for a bunch of young guys in their mid-twenties and all of them,and their engineer referred to it as Cool Lap Steel or just Lap.

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 12:15 am
by Brett Day
Boxcar Willie was doin' a show in Branson one time and he called it a Hawaiian pedal electric steel guitar.

Brett

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 3:43 am
by Mike Perlowin
I say these documents are forgeries, placed there by members of the international banjo conspiracy (who stole the originals which were of course, correct,) in an effort to demoralize and destroy us.

THIS IS WAR!!!

I say we retaliate by changing the letter j to a g. From now on, their instrument is spelled BANGO.

It is the duty of every pedal steel guitarist not just to use this new spelling at all times, but to retroactively change all existing written references to that instrument.

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 4:01 am
by Mike Wheeler
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 5:00 am
by Howard Tate
And all the times Jennings called it a "banger" I thought he was misspelling it. Guess he's just smarter then me.

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 5:05 am
by Charlie McDonald
Hear hear! BANGO is much more descriptive of the sound it makes when properly weilded.

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 5:25 am
by Jim Sliff
Hehe - like "perfect pitch" is hitting the dumpster with the "bango" on the first throw...

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 7:03 am
by Duane Reese
"Steel Pedal" Guitar, eh? Hmm... Eh, oh well.

Frankly I don't even like talking about my instrument with the general public. It always feels like opening a can of worms that becomes too confusing and time consuming for their liking or mine.

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 7:12 am
by Clyde Mattocks
When you play for spite, a bango is the ultimate weapon! How can you tell which steel players also
play bango? We're the ones who are working!

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 7:12 am
by Charles Davidson
Would anyone know where the term [AXE]referring to an instrument come from? Could it have anything to do with [chops]?

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 7:19 am
by Bo Borland
I wanna be like Mike..
I hear Bangers repel skeeters real good!

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 7:44 am
by Jim Cohen
Charles, there actually was a thread on the previous Forum server about the term "axe". You could try a search on that.

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 9:10 am
by Barry Blackwood
I'm with Duane ......

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 9:18 am
by Donny Hinson
Well! NOW, I find out that even LEO FENDER called it a "Steel Pedal" Guitar!
That's not hard to understand, as the pedals on the original Fender 1000 and 400 were made of (die-stamped) steel! :wink:

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 9:47 am
by Jerry Hayes
B@njo players have no sense of humor? Last week at our local Farmer's Market I walked out to the parking lot to watch the bluegrass jams and saw a group with a B@njo in it. I said to my wife in a loud voice "Look Maw, he's playin' a snare drum with a neck on it" to which I got a very cold and icy stare from him but a lot of laughs from the others, Oh well........JH in Va.

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 10:41 am
by Al Marcus
I have had Horn men say to me "Bring your Axe" to the jam session. As Jim says.
Or some called it "Harp". ..Oh Yeah, "Long ago and far away".al.:):)

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 10:48 am
by Tim Marcus
at least "Steel Pedal" is a step in the right direction - what really drives me nuts is when people call it "Slide"

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 11:35 am
by David Doggett
I always thought "chops" was a horn players' term that comes from the fact that they play with their mouths or "choppers."

Re: Steel Pedal Guitars??

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 11:53 am
by Rainer Hackstaette
Jim Cohen wrote:... LEO FENDER called it a "Steel Pedal" Guitar!
It doesn't really surprise me, considering the fact that he also had the vibrato/tremolo thing backwards. :wink:

Leo was undoubtably a genious in many fields. Musical terminology wasn't one of them. So what?

VERY respectfully,
Rainer

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 8:34 pm
by Stephen Dorocke
I'm talking to a guy in a music store, he says, "Waddya Play?"-- I say, "a few things, Pedal Steel, etc..." he says, "I love lap slide!" :? :?

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 8:45 pm
by Jim Cohen
Yeah, well I love 'lap slide' too, but only when I'm not busy playing music... :shock:

Posted: 14 Jun 2007 8:50 pm
by Stephen Dorocke
I was gonna say something like that, but I figured I'd toss it out and let someone else say it............. :wink: