lexicon advice

Billy Murdoch · From: Glasgow, Scotland, U.K.

Hi All,
I have been looking at the Lexicon mpx1 and the Lexicon mpx100
The difference in price is considerable and I was wondering which unit is best for my application.
When playing steel I usually only need about three pre sets,mainly delay and reverb and perhaps chorus.
I also play six string with probably only three pre sets also.I do not record at all,play in a pub band at weekends and thru'the week I play to my Tibetan Terrier in the bedroom.
I would welcome any advice from users as to whether the actual effects quality increases with the price and perhaps how the Lexicon compares with the Pod XT
My set up would be steel to SGBB to fx to amp,I read some time ago that the Lexicon was not really considered to be a guitar effect as such and setting up this way it would not give sufficient volume
Many thanks
Billy

John Daugherty · From: Rolla, Missouri, USA

Billy, I have not tried the MPX 1. The MPX 100 was replaced by the MPX 110. I have not found any difference between the 100 and 110.
I am completely sold on the sound quality and lack of noise with the 100 and 110. I use delay, delay/flange and delay/chorus.
I use a MPX 110 for playing gigs. I have a MPX 100 mounted in my home studio. They work great for me while added no noise to the signal.
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mtulbert · From: Plano, Texas 75023

Hi Billy,

I believe that the main difference is this.. The MPX-1 has two sound processing chips in it. One is strictly for reverb and the other is for the other effects. I am not sure of the structure of the other units that you mentioned. The other difference is programability. The MPX-1 one is totally flexible in programming while the other units are not. Of course there is a considerable learning curve to the MPX-1 while the others are much easier to master.

If you only need a couple of presets or effects, my advice is to save the money and go with a unit other than the MPX-1 in the Lexicon line. They are much easier to set up and will give you good results.

As far as a comparison to the PODXT, IMHO there is no comparison to the reverbs in the Lexicons. They are rich and lush. If that is the type of reverb you are looking for they are one of the best.

If you do need the progammability and want an easier interface with great sounds, check out the T.C. Electronic series as well. They also have excellant effects in them.

Regards,
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Erv Niehaus · From: Litchfield, MN, USA

Lexicon makes a 200 model. This is the one I would try.
It has more features than the 100 and won't cost you an arm and a leg like the other one.

Lynn Stafford · From: Ridgefield, WA USA

Hi Billy,

I would certainly agree with John about the MPX 100, as I've been very happy with mine for several months now. It's very quiet and sounds fantastic

Just a warning about the MX 200 though. I bought one and realized after I tried to hook it up, that it needs to see a "line level" signal in order to work properly. The Evans SE200 amp I was using at the time has an effects loop with only an instrument level signal, so I ended up selling the MX 200 and buying the MPX 110. I am now playing through a Peavey Nashville 400 with the Ken Fox "intense mod" and the MPX 110 works great using it's effects loop.

I hope my comments help and good luck in your search!
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Jim Bob Sedgwick · From: Clinton, Missouri USA

I just went to Lexicon.com and could find no FX processors. Anyone know where to look for this type of item? Their website is terrible when you're trying to find a specific type of product. Not user friendly at all. Or maybe I went to the wrong site to find what I am looking for Rolling Eyes

Does anyone know where to go to find out information? Responses will be appreciated.

Jonathan Cullifer · From: Gallatin, TN

http://www.lexiconpro.com/

Not visible from their consumer page. But there's all the stuff.

I have an MPX1. I have no experience with the T.C. units so I have nothing to compare it to. The thing I like most about the MPX1 is the ability to shape the reverb and chorus settings exactly how you want. Tons of parameters.

The thing I like least about the MPX1 is it's not very intuitive to use out of the box. You gotta read the manual. It's easy to get lost. But it gives me a lot of control.

Billy Murdoch · From: Glasgow, Scotland, U.K.

Gentlemen,
Thanks very much for your replies and advice.
If buying new I see that the MPX110 is about half the price of the MPX1.I could be tempted.
I had a T.C.some time ago and whilst the sounds were good I could never get the volume level high enough.
Best regards
Billy

Steve Stallings · From: Houston/Cypress, Texas

I have a MPX1, MPX 500, and a TC M-One. These units are all intended for the home recording/project studio market or live sound reinforcement. The MPX 110 is discontinued.

I use the MPX 500 for my steel rack system. It works great but in reality is serious overkill. I've used the TC M-One quite a bit live as well but I slightly prefer the Lexicon reverb sound.

You will be fine with the less expensive unit. The only reason I've got all of these is for my recording studio. Actually, hardware based reverbs are being very seriously challenged (in the recording studio) by the new software convolution/impulse reverbs... but that is the subject for another post.
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Ron Randall · From: Dallas, Texas, USA

Lexicon. The NAME in Reverberation. IF you are looking for overdrive, distortion, etc. look somewhere else. Lexicon just does not do that.

For live work I would go with the least expensive LEXICON. There is a model called MX200. I bought it to take out and leave the PCM81 in the studio.
It is simple to operate. It has knobs!!! Less than $200 I think.

I only use one preset, and that is Hall reverb with Digital delay. I twist the knobs till it sounds right. I change it a little here and there. bypass the delay for a ballad, change the tap tempo delay for a two step.

Could one tell the difference in the $175 MX200 and the $2000 PCM81 in a live situation? Yes, the player can tell, but I bet that no one else would notice.

The high dollar Lexicons are for all kinds of effects, that are not always music. Some are Star Wars sounds, Pitch shifting programs, strange echos that are not musical.

John Daugherty · From: Rolla, Missouri, USA

I just looked at the info on the new MX 200. It looks like a winner. Here is the link to the info at Musicians Friend: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Lexicon-MX200-Dual-ReverbEffects-Processor?sku=181014
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Barry Gaskell · From: Cheshire, UK

Hi Bill
I use a lexicon MPX1. I also have a pod XT.
I am currently changing my set up from Emmons-Goodrich-Electro-harmonix memory man (which I love)-Peavey session 400 (Old one) to a rack system, Emmons-Goodrich-Marshall 9001 valve pre-amp-Lexicon MPX1 in the Marshall loop-Matrix power amp- to 2 seperate widow 15's.
The pod, as a delay, reverb,modulation effects unit can't hold a candle to the Lexicon. Distortion, overdrive it doesn't have, but for reverb, delay, echo and modulation effects it is superb, though as has been mentioned, it does take a bit of sussing out. It uses one processor strictly for reverb, and the other for everything else. You can add reverb to any other pre-programmed or custom effect. I found the pod a very hard sound, though there were some interesting modelling sounds available. You will need an effects loop to show the Lexicon a good signal, though I've found the Goodrich shows a sufficient one as well. I think you will find the MPX1 in many of the top players racks. The Lexicon MPX 550 comes well recommended as well.
We are at The Langholme Theatre, Scotland, this Friday with our Legends Country Show, if you are any where near.
Regards
Barry

Billy Murdoch · From: Glasgow, Scotland, U.K.

Happy ending I hope.
I have bought an MXP 110 at a very good price and I should have it by Thursday.
Barry I was really impressed with the country music legends website,your playing on "Deep in the Heart of Texas"was,to say the least excellent.
Langholm is about two hours from me so I will not make the show,can you not talk them into coming to Glasgow.
Many thanks once again to everyone for your help.
What a great Forum.
Best regards
Billy

Michael Pierce · From: Madison, CT

I purchased a Lexicon MPX110 a couple of weeks ago, and my only frustration is that the "dual" settings (which pair a number of the effects like reverb and delay) don't allow the user to pick any flavor of reverb (in other words they are pre-set). I'm wondering if the MX200 allows that flexibility. Also, it sounds like the MPX110, unlike the MX200, may accomodate an "instrument" level signal -- versus a line level only; anyone know? Finally, does anyone know the depth of the MX200, the MPX110 is only 4 or 5 inches deep, which is nice. thanks, mp

Billy Murdoch · From: Glasgow, Scotland, U.K.

Michael,
How do you hook up your MPX110?
Do you go in to the front of the amp or do you use the effecrs loop.
Thanks
Billy

Michael Pierce · From: Madison, CT

Right now I go through the post-eq effect loops of my ZPeavey Nashville 112. (I was advised that many of the Lexicons required a "line-level" signal and that was the way to accomplish that.) I was hoping to eliminate a couple of cords by simply inserting into the chain leading into the amp input, but am not sure that's possible or advisable.

Right now:

Emmons >> Black Box >> Hilton VP >> Nasville 112 (high gain) >> MPX112 (via post-eq effects loop) >> Nashville 112.

Thanks, mp

Jonathan Cullifer · From: Gallatin, TN

Well, the BB needs to see the pickup directly, so putting it in the effects loop is not useful. You may be able to pull off putting the Lexicon in before the input since you have the BB and the pedal in front of it. Try it and see. If it doesn't work, it won't hurt anything and you'll know. If it does, then you will have eliminated one cord.

Michael Pierce · From: Madison, CT

Thanks, Jonathan, it worked just fine. Nothing exploded and I don't detect any increase in noise. Now, of course, that I have the MPX110 working, does anyone know if the reverb and delay can be set independently on the MX200 (i.e., can I use any reverb choice rather than its being pre-determined via the "dual" settings on the MPX110)?

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