Jernigan/Adams avenger tuning

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Jernigan/Adams avenger tuning

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I was hoping to hear a report on Doug and Gary playing at the NTSGA on their diatonic tuning. If anybody was there please tell us about it.
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Here's a picture of them playing. Hopefully one of them will show up and explain the tuning...:)
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great pic. I heard the tuning was something of a combo of an E and D tuning??? Was it a more jazzy or a more country sound, would like to know
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They will also be playing at the GSGA show here in INDY on May 4th and 5th. I'm not sure which day but they are going to give it a try. Come and be with us and you can no doubt ask them questions about the tuning. Our concert info can be found at www.gospelsteel.com.
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Danny, is that a pedal or a non-pedal guitar tuning? I've never heard of it before. I must be living too sheltered a life! I need to get out more!
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Doug,

This is a special setup and tuning developed by Doug Jernigan and Gary Adams which is being used on a 12 string pedal steel guitar.

This is something that Doug and Gary have been working on for some time now, and is very unique.

I haven't gotten all of the details about it yet, but I'll talk to Doug about it the next time I see him, and see if I can get more details to pass along to the interested parties here.
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E9sus4?
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That's what it look like to me too!
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Post by Darvin Willhoite »

And on Fessenden guitars. The opening in the changer end looks larger than standard, has Jerry went to a quad raise changer maybe?
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Post by Herb Steiner »

Gary's guitar has more pedals. I want that one. ;)
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It's a hexatonic scale tuning. Here's a link describing hexatonic theory:
http://www.franksinger.com/hexatonics.htm
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Very interesting set up.
I want to hear a clip.

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Post by Jay Jessup »

Always up for hearing about new tunings especially if its something these two are pursuing, it has to be pretty capable of Jazz and I would think country too. Is this the first time this tuning has come up on the forum? Hopefully someone will post a pedal chart in the near furture?
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Hi Everybody!
Thanks for all the input and John...great photo, Thanks!
I believe in the near future someone witll post the pedal setup for the diatonic tuning. :P
Once again thanks
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Post by ebb »

this really exciting. my tenor buddy was describing this to me without knowing it had a name. i cant wait to hear it
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This is the kind of steel guitar buzz that has always gotten my wheels turning. Can't wait to hear some examples!
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:) Hey guys Gary had this guitar at one of my Gospel Steel Guitar Shows and everyone was watching and listening . It was very interesting to say the least ! G.P.
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Yes! I remember he was there year before last. :D
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Post by Rick Schmidt »

Is this tuning really avenging anything?
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What's the copedent? This looks really interesting.
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Post by doug jernigan »

Thanks for your interest in the avenger tuning. Gary and I came up with this tuning approximately 36 years ago while we were working with Johnny Paycheck.
We are still experimenting with the pedal and knee lever setup. I will post the copedent shortly after we finalize it.

I will say the tuning lends itself to 7 or 8 knee levers and hopefully 5 foot pedals. About half of the knee levers will be split tuned.

Gary and I hope to have a CD out for ST Louis showcasing the tuning.

Thanks again!
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Bump for the ISGC input. :)
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Avenger tuning

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Any further word on this?

I would think any time a player of Jernigan's caliber proposes a new tuning idea it would generate more interest.
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BUMP To The Top. :)
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