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Rick Winfield
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Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 23 Feb 2007 9:56 am |
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Hello to everyone. I'm a new member of the forum.I've been reading it for about 18 months, (while trying to learn lap steel), and would like to thank everyone for the information I have acquired. I would never have traveled this far on my own !!
Until recently, I worked in several part-time bands, doing the usual NJ Shore Bar thing, playing lead guitar. I've always had an interest in the "steel", and thanks to you fellow members, I was able to develop a little skill and "know how". I'm not at the point where I can play what I hear in my head, but I got a good understanding of how to get there
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Mike Neer
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Posted 23 Feb 2007 10:19 am
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Hi Rick. Where in NJ are you located? What kind of stuff do you play?
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Rick Winfield
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Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 23 Feb 2007 11:19 am
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oops !!!
Sorry Mike, I sent you a personal eMail, instead of posting my response. I'll get the hang of it |
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Ron Victoria
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Posted 23 Feb 2007 12:53 pm
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I'm always looking for new friends from the garden state. Welcome from central NJ.
Ron |
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Rick Winfield
From:
Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 23 Feb 2007 1:49 pm thanks
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| thanks Ron, I'm from Brick. In between the pines and the shore. |
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Don Kona Woods
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Hawaiian Kama'aina
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Posted 23 Feb 2007 6:05 pm
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Rick,
Welcome to the Forum.
As a newbie to steel guitar, pay close attention to the left hand, it is mostly where the nice sound comes from.
Aloha, 
Don |
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Rick Winfield
From:
Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 24 Feb 2007 5:52 am
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Funny you should mention it Don, but after using several bars(including a Stevens), I seem to like the Dunlop bullet bars.
One problem however. The longer of the two I have (#920) weighs almost 8 oz., and is a little too heavy. The smaller one,(#919) weighs maybe 3 oz. but I miss the length of the former. I need to find one that is no more than 4 oz., but has some lenght to it.
(sorry I can't remember the length dimensions)
Thanks for the tip. |
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Don Kona Woods
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Hawaiian Kama'aina
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Posted 25 Feb 2007 12:07 am
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Hi again, Rick.
The Jerry Byrd Dunlop bars are nice bars - I like the 2 7/8" x 3/4" for six or eight strings. I believe the rounds give off a better sound.
You can work on the oscillation of the bar whether faster or slower until you get the sound that you like. Then practice it alot until you can do it without a thought.
Keep on with that pickin'
Aloha,
Don |
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Rick Winfield
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Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 27 Feb 2007 11:09 am Bars
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I wasn't aware that Dunlop made a "Jerry Byrd" model bar, Don. I'm going to look into it. Might be just what need.
Sounds like it's got the right dimensions.
thanks |
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Don Kona Woods
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Hawaiian Kama'aina
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Posted 27 Feb 2007 2:50 pm
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Rick,
The Jerry Byrd Dunlop bars have a good feel weight-wise, not too light and not too heavy.
If your store does not have them, they could order it for you or you can go on line and order it from Scotty's (in St.Louis).
Aloha,
Don |
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Gary Shepherd
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Fox, Oklahoma, USA
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Rick Winfield
From:
Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 28 Feb 2007 11:39 am
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thanks again Don. I've ordered #919 from Scotty's. Can't wait to use it. Right now I have a Dynalap 8 (A6) and a Supro double neck 8, circa '62, C6/Fmaj7(rear)and E9th chromatic (front)minus the bottom B & D. I don't have any particular style that I'm going for. What little I do is very diverse. A little jazzy, somewhat country swing, a few personal favorites. (Eagles, etc.) Most of my learning is from Cindy Cashdollar, and Bobbe Seymour. I love a lot of the 40's and 50's sound, and I try to re-create some of the 70's pedal sound.(hence the pedal E9) rather than the swing E9. I know a lot more(rookie) than I can do, but I'm well on my way to wherever.
GARY: ?"que pasa senor?" and gratias. (that's 99% of MY spanglish) ha ha |
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Michael Papenburg
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Oakland, CA
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Posted 28 Feb 2007 12:09 pm
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Welcome to the forum. I started out on guitar and have been messing around with lap steel since the early Eighties. While it's a difficult instrument to learn, the sound of metal on strings is quite addictive and well worth the effort.
If you don't mind, please share the chromatic E9 tuning that you mentioned. I'm not familiar with it.
Thanks. |
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Rick Winfield
From:
Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 28 Feb 2007 12:55 pm Tuning
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Hi Mike,
I too am guitar player.Maybe 40 years or so....
Anyway, in the 70's I owned an OMIC steel body(G tuning) and a Sho-Bud Maverick.(E9th) At that time I had 2 baby boys who demanded most of my attention. I couldn't put in the learning time, so I sold them, (not the boys) and just kept my Les Paul.
I've always loved that "steel sound" and about 18 months ago I decided to "try it again."
Hence: the E9th Chromatic tuning. It can back to me from the 70's. On a pedal steel (10 stringer that is) it is as follows:
B D E F# G# B E D# F#. (low to high)
I left out the two bottom strings B,D, and put the rest on my 8 string non-pedal. I attempt to use slants, to emulate the pedals. Most times I can get only 2 note voicings, but sometimes I can get 3. I don't know off-hand what gauges I use, but I can write it down for you if you are interseted. A lot of the 70's pedal steel sound comes from this, and it's fun as well as fret board educational. |
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Rick Winfield
From:
Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 28 Feb 2007 1:00 pm E R R O R
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Sorry there Mike I left out a note.
E F# G# B E G# D# F#
Also the stringd 1 & 2 are in the same range as the 4th string!! |
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Michael Papenburg
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Oakland, CA
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Posted 28 Feb 2007 1:01 pm
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| Thanks, that looks interesting. I'll have to try it out sometime. I currently use a 6 string version of G6 but I'm expecting a new 8 string lap steel within the next week. I'm looking around for different tunings to try out. |
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Rick Winfield
From:
Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 28 Feb 2007 1:26 pm
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Hey Mike,
If you look at it closely, you'll see, it's like an open E tuning on a regular guitar, with a added 2nd/9th,and Maj7th.
When you see it like that, you're not too far away from finding the dominant and sub dominant chords, as well as the relative minor.
good luck on your slants. If only my fingers and bar could follow my thoughts!! |
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