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Topic: Placement of the Franklin pedal |
Anders Brundell
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Falun, Sweden
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Posted 11 Feb 2007 11:49 am |
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What's the the best placement of the Franklin pedal? I think I'll put it on my guitar and try it, but where?
Pedal or lever?
Wich other pedals and levers is the Franklin pedal used in combination with?
Anders
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Larry Bell
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Englewood, Florida
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Posted 11 Feb 2007 12:29 pm
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Nobody can answer that question for you
The two most popular positions are
- Pedal 4, to the right (from the player's perspective) of the ABC pedals and
- Pedal '0' to the left of the ABC pedals
I prefer to the left (pedal '0'), because I have some guitars that have this change and others that do not. The order of the pedals from ABC through the 6th tuning pedals is the same if the 'Franklin' pedal is to the left of ABC.
Only you can determine what works best for you. I've tried it both ways (several times actually)
You will use the E to D# lever with it most often so, if it's on a pedal, there isn't a problem getting the combination easily.
Good luck. It is a very useful change.
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Anders Brundell
From:
Falun, Sweden
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Posted 14 Feb 2007 7:53 pm PF knee lever or pedal?
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Maybe the PF pedal would be handier to have on a knee lever. Is there some forumite who have tried that? Experiences? Pros and cons compared to a floor pedal?
Anders |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 15 Feb 2007 3:20 am
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Whats best ? Can't say..
My previous Steel had it in the P4 position, to the right of the C Pedal. My curretn steel has it at the 0 PED position, to the left of the A Pedal.
Whats best for ME is to the left of the A Pedal, the 0 PED Position.
I use the PED 4 often along with AB peds so it just feels more natural to me, and I don't have to cross the C pedal.
good luck
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Larry Strawn
From:
Golden Valley, Arizona, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Feb 2007 7:04 pm Franklin pedal position
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Mine is on P-4, since this is the first guitar I've had with this pedal I had no idea what would be best for me, it was on P-4 when I got the guitar.
After 2 months of experimenting with this pedal I think it will work best for me located at P-0, now to see what all is involved with making this change! 
Larry
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Bill Dobkins
From:
Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2007 6:32 pm
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| I put mine on the Right left lever or (right Inside) It seems to work OK but I'm not a good enough player to really tell. I'm OK with my A&B pedals and my left outside (F Lever)and my left inside (E Lever) and until I get good with those I'm not going to play much with the other stuff. |
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Ulf Edlund
From:
Umeå, Sweden
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Posted 17 Feb 2007 6:52 pm
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My Franklin came with this change on P4 (all eight are Franklin pedals by the way  ) and though i'm not used to it and haven't really figured out what it's for, it doesn't feel as awkward as i imagined it. If i decide to keep it, it will stay on the fourth.
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A. Roncetti
From:
Toronto,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 17 Feb 2007 10:03 pm
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| Since I'm such a mini-me I had to have my steel built shorter and with the pedals further in. My Franklin is between most player's A&B pedal. Then A,B,C. Because of this I had my LKL,V & LKR moved in as well. Not too many guys are able to play with out engaging the V by accident. |
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Anders Brundell
From:
Falun, Sweden
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Posted 18 Feb 2007 1:11 am PF pedal
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Well, now it's on p0, left of the A pedal, and time will tell if that's the right place. It had to be on a pedal since my guitar have five B and G# strings ( set up at http://groups.msn.com/countryfolketidalarna/dcmcsfotoalbum.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=154 ) and no lever would pull that without bruising daddy badly. I had to leave out string 13 for that reason, but I think I can live with that.
There's a wound string in position 6 to parry the cabinet drop, and that string requiers quite a stroke for a whole tone lower, and it was barely possible to achieve that without moving the plastic pedal stop.
Now I would greatly appreciate more sharing of mp3 examples of how you fellow pickers use the PF pedal! C'mon, boys and girls!
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 18 Feb 2007 2:04 am
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when i got my Zum, the PF pedal was in the 0 position
i moved it over to 4 since i was used to having A & B over to the left
in the 0 position, it was also uncomfortable usin' LKR & LKL when using A & B |
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Johan Jansen
From:
Europe
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Posted 18 Feb 2007 3:49 am
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If I had an 9 foot- I would consider the first. With my 8foot Derby the best place is the 4th, next to C
Johan |
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Larry Strawn
From:
Golden Valley, Arizona, R.I.P.
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Posted 18 Feb 2007 6:16 am
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CrowBear,
That's an interesting thought about the PF pedal and LKR being hard to reach with the PF pedal in the 0 positition as I've already found that I like the use of the two together real well.
After I wake up some more this morning I'll go out to the studio and experiment some more. As I've stated in an earlier post my PF pedal is at 4, so maybe that's where it needs to be for me, I'm getting used to crossing the C pedal, but was thinking about something easier. Maybe I should leave well enough alone and just play the "dang thang"!
Larry
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Per Berner
From:
Skovde, Sweden
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Posted 18 Feb 2007 6:49 am
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From previous discussions, I'd say most have the Franklin change on P0 with P4 a close second (haven't counted, just a hunch). I have it on P0 on my new Zum, but I haven't figured out any use for it yet.
Contrary to Crowbear's experience, I find that having the A+B pedals moved one step to the right this way feels much better - they are perfectly aligned below the left knee levers, which they would not be if I had gone for the P4 position. Your mileage may of course vary, depending on physique (yours and the guitar's). |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 18 Feb 2007 8:24 pm
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| Sorry to express my ignorance, but what is a Franklyn Pedal ? |
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Anders Brundell
From:
Falun, Sweden
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Posted 18 Feb 2007 9:22 pm Paul Franklin's 4:th pedal
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Hello, Alan!
Don't be sorry - be happy, hehe!
The Franklin pedal is Paul Franklin's 4:th pedal (look at Paul's set up at http://b0b.com/tunings/franklin.htm ) that lowers strings 5,6 and 10 a whole tone each. Pauls way of using that pedal can be heard on numerous records, and that has - of course - increased the interest for that new change, wich is not a part of the standard E9 tuning.
So turn your guitar upside down, mount the Franklin pedal, start playing, and share your experiences with the rest of us!
Anders
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