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Topic: 2nd & 9th String Lower Licks |
Gary Shepherd
From:
Fox, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2007 6:55 pm |
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Maybe this should be in the tablature section.
I realized that I don't use my RKR knee very much. It lowers my 2nd & 9th strings. Anyone want to share some standard licks that involve these changes? Maybe I can get more out of my guitar if I had more ideas on what to do with that knee.
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Gary Shepherd
Carter D-10 & Peavey Nashville 1000
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2007 8:08 pm
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Gary,
I lower 9 and move up three frets from open position to get a different voicing of a 7th chord. So, for instance, play a G7 chord at the third fret, string 9-6-5, no pedals. By moving that same grip up to the sixth fret with the 9th string lowered (RKR), you have the same chord but revoiced. (Actually you have now plugged the root [G] back into the chord and put the seventh [F] on top). For a more complete lick, play that G7 back at the third fet (9-6-5), now mash pedals A and B, then move up to fret six with pedals off and RKR engaged--can move back down with it as well; very useful little bluesy lick.
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Gary Shepherd
From:
Fox, Oklahoma, USA
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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John McGlothlin
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Posted 20 Feb 2007 8:06 am Second string lower
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| Hi Gary....I have for along time been looking for ways to use the second string drop and by listening to a song on one of Hank Thompson's records....I managed to zero in on something. The song is "Ages and Ages Ago" Curly Chalker is doing the steel on that song and using the standard E9th tuning. Its in the second verse and he is using the second string drop in a part behind Hank's singing and I stayed focused on that move for years before figuring out what Curly was doing. I have a recording software and after converting the song over to a digital file I slowed that part down so I could better hear it. This has opened a new door for me as far as understanding the true E9th sound. |
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Scott Swartz
From:
St. Louis, MO
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Posted 20 Feb 2007 9:47 am
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That single lever gives a pentatonic scale across the neck at the root position (G at 3rd fret), and in other places when combined with B pedal, E-D#, and B-A#. I consider this to be quite useful, search the old forum for "pentatonic lever" and you can read Paul Franklin discussing it.
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/011638-3.html
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Steeltronics - Steel Guitar Pickups
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 20 Feb 2007 1:13 pm
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Gary, lowering the 9th string is a must for me, I actually tune my 9th string to C# and raise it to D on a knee lever. When it's lowered to C#, lower your 4th and 8th E strings to put you in the B6th chord. Then think of the 9th string in the same way you do the 7th string in E9th....mainly as the II in the B scale. Another nice move in E9 is going from a I to a IV chord using that lever. For instance, you're in the key of A on the 5th fret (no pedals or levers) Play strings 6, 8, & 9 at the end of a phrase. To go to the D chord, play the same strings and the press the B pedal and that knee lever.........JH in Va.
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Gary Shepherd
From:
Fox, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2007 9:34 pm
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Jerry, my D# and C# lowers are on the same knee so I can't do the first one. But I do use the tritone thing you mentioned.
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Gary Shepherd
Carter D-10 & Peavey Nashville 1000
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Billy Carr
From:
Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 21 Feb 2007 3:29 am 2 & 9
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| I use 6,8 & 9 with the 2nd pedal pressed(raises G# to A) then as I lower 9, I also raise 10 with pedal 1 at the same time. Gives me a fat sounding ending chord at the end of some songs. While both pedals are down you can also chime the 3rd string while this is ringing. Try it in D at the 5th fret. I also use 4,6 & 9 at times with pedals 2 & 3(Emmons). Coming into the 5 chord at the 5th fret(A) start at 7th fret with pedals 2&3 down, playing 4,6 & 9, slide back to 5th fret and release pedals. A7th chord. I use the 2nd string(lowered a whole tone with the 5th string and the 1st pedal. Goes on & on. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 21 Feb 2007 5:17 am
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two excellent uses..with many variables.
MP3 below...
AS I have stated many times, for me, I view these and all changes as notes in scales, sure chords follow, but it's the notes within the scale that I focus on. Kind of like a Guitar player playing 1 fret down or 1 fret up...
here are two very short clips combined in one MP3.
the first phrase substitutes the 10th string with the A Pedal with the 9th string and the lower.
You can substitute the 9th string lower all day long for the 10th string with the A Pedal Raise. Lower down to the resolve rather than raise UP to it. This phrase also uses the 7th raise along with the B pedal for a suspended "open" phrase resolving down to the final note with the 9th string lower..
The second part of the clip is Buckaroo, Pedals A and B together using the 2nd string 1/2 step lower...thanks Tom 
Simple and traditional with real E9th flavor...
the second string 1/2 step lower out of the OPEN positon we all know gives us our first 7th chord ( can we all say Maverick together ?) But who said we can't use it at will ?
www.tprior.com/demo_1.MP3
thanks,
tp
ps, excuse the sloppy stuff, it's early and the Steel is way ahead of me .... |
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