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Topic: Another new Star Guitar |
Andy DePaule
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Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 20 Jan 2007 9:19 am |
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Dave Phillips said I should post the pictures of my new guitar here so more folks would see it.
For those who are interested, it was built by Mark Giles of Star Guitars.
He sent the cabinet to me unfinished. I Inlaid the Fret Board then took the cabinet to our workshop in Viet Nam where our artists inlaid the cabinet.
I then returned the cabinet and neck back to Mark and he finished the project.
I guess this will be called my "Dragon Guitar"
Last edited by Andy DePaule on 20 Jan 2007 6:55 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Andy DePaule
From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 20 Jan 2007 9:49 am More on the Star
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The Guitar is Curly California Black Walnut.
When I ordered the guitar I had it set up with two E9th pedals, one for A6th across the lowest 7 strings, and one with a B6th change (B to C# & G# to Bb)...
I fooled around with that for three day but changed it.
I really wanted to learn some Mooney stuff but it is not easy with the E to F# on a knee lever the way I have always had it.
I now changed the guitar to a very standard E9th (Emmons Setup) with the extra pedal pulling the F# to G#.
Knees as follows;
LKL = E's to F
LKV = B's to Bb
LKR = 2nd String, Eb to D/C# & 9th String D to C#
RKL = E's to Eb
RKR = F#'s to G
Very standard tuning and I am having a lot of fun with it.
I decided that many fellows, much smarter than I, and far more talented than I have developed this and used it, so it must be good. |
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Bill Ford
From:
Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 20 Jan 2007 1:21 pm
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Man,...Talk about "one of a kind" Absolutely beautifull!!!
How does it play/sound?
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Bill Ford S12 CLR, S12 Lamar keyless, Misc amps&toys Sharp Covers
Steeling for Jesus now!!! |
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john widgren
From:
Wilton CT
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Posted 20 Jan 2007 1:55 pm WOW
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| WOW! Beautiful work. How does that walnut sound? |
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Andy DePaule
From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 20 Jan 2007 1:57 pm Great
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It plays very easy with light & quick pedal and knee lever action.
Tone is great, somewhere between the sound of an older Sho-Bud and Emmons or Zum kind of tone.
A lot to work with.
Got a Peavy Nashville 1-12 and they go real nice together.
I just hope I can get enough chops to justify this guitar. |
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Ernie Pollock
From:
Mt Savage, Md USA
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Posted 20 Jan 2007 2:46 pm Wow!!
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Andy: that has to be the coolest E9th steel I have ever seen, just a beautiful job on that.
Ernie Pollock  |
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Bernie Gonyea
From:
Sherman Tx. 75092 ,U.S.A. (deceased)
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Posted 20 Jan 2007 5:21 pm The dragon Guitar
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Hey, Andy: Congratulations on bringing us the most beautiful pedal steel, thus far, into 2007.. Wow... I knew that black walnut was a lovely wood, but your guitar is the greatest piece of walnut, that I've ever seen. Has the Star Co. been building steels for very long? Enjoy your new BABY.. Bernie.. |
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Andy DePaule
From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 20 Jan 2007 6:44 pm Walnut Guitar Tone???
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The guitar neck was made from a 3/4" slab of California Black Walnut.
The cabinet is maple with an 1/8" cover of California Black Walnut. Also known as Claro Walnut.
Even if it were solid walnut I'd have nothing to compare it to so I am sorry I can't really answer the question.
I can tell you that since the early 70's I've built quite a few acoustic guitars with Claro Walnut back and sides and sometimes the necks too.
They have all had very good tone.
I also know that a lot of luthiers who build electric guitars use this wood. |
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Andy DePaule
From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 20 Jan 2007 6:49 pm Star Guitars
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Mark Giles and his partner have been making these for some time, but I am not sure exactly how long. Better if you ask him.
He also makes the cabinets for several other steel guitar companies, but I am not sure which all of these are or if I should even say which.
Without question, they know the right way to build a steel.
Here is the contact for them;
Mark Giles
Star Steel Guitars
910 West Pierson
Hamilton, TX 76531
Phone 254-386-5831 |
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Hook Moore
From:
South Charleston,West Virginia
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Andy DePaule
From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 21 Jan 2007 12:06 pm PSG Fret Boards
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Thank's Hook,
I've for a long time thought that PSG's have often tacky looking Fret Boards even when the rest of the PSG is nice with fine maple or something else.
Other stringed instruments often have nice inlays there while PSG will just have cast plastic or silk screened with odd images.
I am working on some new designs for Front aprons and fret boards.
Also making some PSG versions of classic inlay designs, like the Florentine or Wreath Banjo design.
I am thinking of producing replacement Fret Boards that can just be stuck down.
I will attach two "Virtual" inlays that I am having made now which are a combination of Florentine & Wreath for PSG.
I'd love to get some feed back about what steelers think of these before I get too far into the project financialy? |
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Andy DePaule
From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 21 Jan 2007 12:28 pm PSG "Virtual" Front Aprons
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These are a couple of PSG "Virtual" Front Aprons that I was playing around with.
They are not to the proper scale or proportions yet.
I want to also design matching Fret Board inlays to go with these.
We are already producing these FB inlay sets (Picture attached) for regular guitar, but the scale, width and number of frets on a PSG are not the same.
PSG Aprons;
Guitar Fret Baords;
Really would like feedback, good or bad??? |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 21 Jan 2007 12:29 pm
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I think that a fretboard with those Geckos is the way to go...Stu
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Steven Black
From:
Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 21 Jan 2007 4:14 pm Fret Boards
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| Hey De Paule, is there a way I can get a couple of fretboards made like the ones you have pictured here, one for E9th and one for C6th? and what would they run?. |
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Tommy Young
From:
Ethelsville Alabama
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Posted 21 Jan 2007 4:44 pm
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| they are beautiful in my way of thinking, i might have one if i can ever get enough money to buy a knew one , as all the knew guitars are getting higher in prices as most of u already know, then with the extra for this type of beautification is tough for a wkend picker , with not many places to play in ms. just my thoughts tommy young |
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Andy DePaule
From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 21 Jan 2007 6:32 pm Feed Back
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Thank's for the feed back.
For Stu,
The Geckos are a design belonging to one of my inlay customers. Part of his mandolin peg head logos.
He allowed me to use it on my steel but will not allow any other use.
Many folks have asked for that too.
Steven,
Which did you like, The Florentine Wreath or the Nouveau Style?
I am planning to produce these all soon.
Still not sure of the material they will be made in.
Now it is a toss up between Resin casting, Graphite or being inlaid into Ebony wood.
When we start to have them ready we will make them available.
Not even sure if it is OK to discuss sales on this forum. I should check with Bob to be sure I am not getting out of line?
Tommy,
Cost is always a factor. I am still not sure until we decide on the final material and the expense of the process.
I may offer the Florentine Wreath design as a pre-cut inlay on my web site for those who are able to do the inlay work. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 22 Jan 2007 2:22 am
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| Beautyful Inlay there Andy ! |
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 22 Jan 2007 4:21 am
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Amazing looking fretboards ! What is the ball park figure ? Over or under $100 ? Over $200 ?
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Hook Moore
From:
South Charleston,West Virginia
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Steven Black
From:
Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 22 Jan 2007 9:31 am Fretboards
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| Hey Andy, I like both, but the one posted below the other is the one I like, those have to be hard to do, cutting Abalone inlay is very difficult and expensive to do, but I would like to go for two of them, let me know what they cost, steveb318@aol.com. |
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Andy DePaule
From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 28 Jan 2007 10:28 am Fret Boards Price
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I expect they will fall between $100 & $200 but don't want to get pinned down yet until we decide on a final process.
Then we will know what they cost us. As of now I would just be guessing blind.
When ready I will make some posts here in the forum.
Thanks for all your feed back. |
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Steven Black
From:
Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 28 Jan 2007 11:44 am Fretboards
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| Hey Andy, let me know when you are ready to take orders on these fretboards, what scale length are they? |
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Steven Black
From:
Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 28 Jan 2007 11:48 am My new e-mail
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| Hey Andy, my new e-mail address is Black43230@yahoo.com, and I have two e-mail addresses the other is SBlack4@insight.rr.com, I will probably use Insight more but send message to both. |
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Jon Jaffe
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 28 Jan 2007 7:01 pm
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| The fret boards are fantastic. I would be interested when they are available, or sooner. The instruments on your web page and the pictures of your family and Vietnam are beautiful as well. |
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Bernie Gonyea
From:
Sherman Tx. 75092 ,U.S.A. (deceased)
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Posted 29 Jan 2007 5:48 pm Andy's Inlays/fret boards
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Andy: Your Inlays Designs are great & beautiful. Please let us know when you have all the facts & figures. O.K?.. Bernie
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It is certainly unique.