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Topic: F#s to G# on push pull |
John Poston
From:
Albuquerque, NM, USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2007 4:51 pm |
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| Anyone doing this change on a P/P and how is it working out? I'm thinking of having someone add LKV with the change along with D# to E and wonder how the mechanics work out with that. |
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Jamie Lennon
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 4 Feb 2007 5:05 pm
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I have a sho bud and basically all I done for the F# - G# was over the nylon tuner for my G lever till it reached G# !
For my Eb - E I had to add that pull via rod etc
Jamie |
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Fred Amendola
From:
Lancaster, Pa.
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Posted 4 Feb 2007 5:21 pm
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John,
I had that change on my push pull when I owned it. It was a very long travel. I had it on my RKR and I cannot imagine it on an up-lever. You might want to re-think its location.
Forumite Wayne Tyler had that on a push pull, and had a special longer bell crank to shorten the travel.
Just my two cents |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Darvin Willhoite
From:
Roxton, Tx. USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2007 5:47 pm
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I have the F# to G# change on the P/P that I have now and also had it on the one I sold a few months ago. It does require a lot of travel, but I was able to do it with standard bellcranks. It was a little tricky getting everything adjusted, but it works. I had it on my LKL.
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MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, a restored MSA Classic SS, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Also a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored Rose S10, named the "Blue Bird". Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also have a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks, and a showroom condition Sho-Bud Super Pro. |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 4 Feb 2007 7:37 pm
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I have both F#'s to G#, string one on a pedal with string 2 up to E and string 7 with string 2 up to E on RKL. The throws are long but who cares, the changes are worth it, it is a PP.
Larry Behm |
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Justin Griffith
From:
Taylor, Texas, USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2007 7:58 pm
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Mine does it nicely. Fred nailed it about the VKL. I agree the travel
would be too long. A shorter bellcrank might be good as well as removing the allen head tuning screw in the endplate provided you dont lower the string.
Good luck. Feel free to Email if I can help any further.
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Michael Douchette
From:
Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Posted 4 Feb 2007 8:54 pm
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My P/P has it, and handles it well. I have it on RKL, pulls both F#'s up. The trick with string one is that the open tuning is where the drop tuning adjustment would be. The normal open tuning hole is useless. Not sure who did mine as it came that way when I got it. Dropping the 6th to F# is not an option as I use a wound 6th instead of a plain one, and the travel would be impossibly long.
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 4 Feb 2007 10:02 pm
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Michael,
I drop a wound sixth a full tone on my PP no problem,
I slaved the linkage to get better gearing. |
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Michael Douchette
From:
Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Byron Walcher
From:
Ketchum, Idaho, USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2007 11:40 pm
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Both of mine raise 1 and 7 to G#, the older guitar also lowers 6 to F#, all works great. Setup by Bryan Adams. I'm going to get the lower put on the other guitar as well if Bryan will give up the parts to do it.
Byron
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Allan Thompson
From:
Scotland.
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Posted 5 Feb 2007 3:44 am
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John,
The hole that the lower spring connects to is the hole to use for the raise on string one. Disconnect the spring as you do not lower the first string. Now the half tone raise on string two. If you have the lower half stop set up as per the Emmons factory you will have to disconnect it and use the 9th or some other string maybe the 7th as your half stop. |
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Stephen Gambrell
From:
Over there
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Posted 5 Feb 2007 5:19 am
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| I had the G/G# on the first string, and the 6th string lower, on my push-pull. Charles Reece set it up, and the trvel wasn't too long. |
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Charles Dempsey
From:
Shongaloo, LA
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Posted 5 Feb 2007 8:20 am
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I put that on my push/pull's RKL. Used a standard bellcrank and the rod goes to the lowest (closest to the changer axle) hole in the raise finger.
It works fine, but there's very little extra travel available, so don't use a spring between the collar and the swivel.
Charlie |
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Chick Donner
From:
North Ridgeville, OH USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2007 2:02 pm
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| It's a change I've had for years, and there are ways to make the pull no longer than any other knee lever pull.Emaill off list if'n you want pictures and ideas. |
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