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Bobby Boggs
From:
Upstate SC.
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Posted 3 Jan 2007 10:27 am |
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| What's the difference in a Pro II, Pro II Custom and a Super Pro undercarriage?? Do all 3 have the pot metal parts?? Are they different animals all together??THanks in advance...........bb |
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 3 Jan 2007 11:43 am
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The ProII and ProII Custom are pretty much the same, with the one big exception... the ProII's had brass barrels behind the string pullers and fixed ends on the pull rods, and the Customs had nylon tuners on the end of the pull rods - down by the changer - and the rods were fixed at the string pullers.
Also, somewhere along the line SB went from a single raise/single lower changer to a double raise/single lower changer... and possibly with some other models along the way.
The SuperPro undercarriage was a different style... the string pullers were of a different design, but they also had nylon tuners at the changer, and the rods attached to the pullers with wire clips. It's also my understanding that only the SP style used pot metal.
There's a few more differences, regarding the changer as well. Maybe Ricky Davis will chime in. |
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Clyde Lane
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Glasgow, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2007 2:35 pm
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If the undercarrage has hex cross shafts then it is pot metal. If the changer fingers have a slot for the ball end of the string then they are pot metal. I recently saw a photo of a Pro II that had the round cross shafts and two hole pullers but had pot metal changer fingers. I didn't know any were built like that.
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Gary Preston
From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2007 2:50 pm
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| Skip i can only speak for my Pro-ll Custom that i had built for me in 1977 it is a triple raise and double lower system that works great even after all these years and no breakage problems to speak of . Something to think about . Gary . |
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James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 3 Jan 2007 9:01 pm
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The Pro II is the same, roundfront and all, as a Professional, (which is the same body style of the old crossovers, less the cast frame) EXCEPT with the Pro II they quit the rack system and went with brass barrels behind two hole pullers. The Pro II still had the hex head end tuners. Those two models, the Proffessional and the Pro II, are closer related, than the Pro II and the Pro II Custom in many ways. The Pro II Custom came out with a square front and earlyon had the same undercarrage as the Pro II, but soon the pot metal / super pro parts started to show up, along with nylon tuners. The early Roundfronts were the real tone monsters according to many, but many loved the tone of the Customs, too. All these guitars overlapped the production of the next line in some way or another, as Shobud was constantly changing.
One thing about it, though, they ALL will upgrade with modern parts and make phenominal guitars--vintage guitars with modern up-graded undercarrages. |
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Kyle Everson
From:
Nashville, Tennessee
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Posted 4 Jan 2007 10:13 am
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| One thing about it, though, they ALL will upgrade with modern parts and make phenominal guitars--vintage guitars with modern up-graded undercarrages. |
That's what I'm doing to my '73 Pro-II right now. I am borrowing a Professional that was rebuilt in this manner (14-hole adjustments!!) and it's smooth as silk. Mine had the old allen wrench adjustments which, to put nicely, didn't like to play well with others  . |
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Darryl Hattenhauer
From:
Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2007 10:09 pm
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Are there any tone/timbre differences between these guitars?
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Steel crazy after all these years.
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Ernie Pollock
From:
Mt Savage, Md USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2007 5:42 am Pro III
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I have had a couple of Pro III pass through my shop, they had the pot metal changer, but not all pot like the Super Pro's. The problem with those changers was getting the 10th string on the C6th neck in the slot when you were putting on new strings, it could almost become a 'cussin job'. but they sure sounded sweet!!
Ernie 
http://www.hereintown.net/~shobud75/stock.htm |
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Rick Johnson
From:
Wheelwright, Ky USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2007 11:12 am
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[quote="Gary Preston"]Skip i can only speak for my Pro-ll Custom that i had built for me in 1977
Gary
I remember meeting you just after you ordered
that guitar, its hard to believe its been 30 yrs.
Rick
www.rickjohnsoncabs.com |
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