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Topic: Anyone remember these old west coast players? |
Dave Zirbel
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Sebastopol, CA USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2006 4:27 pm |
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Thanks Steve. I guess that record is not as obscure as I thought. I always hoped to hear it one day.
DZ |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 30 Sep 2006 10:47 am
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| jimmy fox was my inspiration in the sacramento area...anyone seen or heard from him? |
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John Daugherty
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Rolla, Missouri, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2006 3:51 pm
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Mike Brewer, sorry it took me so long to reply. I asked Jack Kondora if Roy Counts was at the Bob Wills tribute in Mt. View Arkansas. Jack doesn't know Roy. I thought he would be there if he is still kickin.
When I worked Georges Roundup, Roy played lead and fiddle. Bob Wills did a show nearby. Roy said "I'm taking off tomorrow night. They can fire me if they want to, but I'm going to see the old man".
I haven't heard anything about Roy since I left the Roundup in 1962. Helen Price and Jimmy Pierce live in the Nashville area now. Norm Owens died in 1999, Roy Nichols died in 2001. Wynn Stewart died in ???. Dale Norris lives in Carthage, Missouri. Cecil Bays lives in Tome, New Mexico. Frank Arnett lives in Greenbrier, Tennessee. I don't know what happened to Bobby Austin. Dale Bennett,of course, replied to this post.
FYI, if you hear anything about me from the west coast days, it would be under my stage name from those days, "Johnny Dee".
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Scott Wehmeyer
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Texas, USA
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Alan Harrison
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Murfreesboro Tennessee, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2006 5:06 pm
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I'm trying to remember the name of a really fine player in the Oxnard, Ventura area around 1970 or so. He was an American Indian and played a Gibson Console. I believe it was a tripple neck. I played lead guitar with him on several jobs. He went by the name of "Chief" something or other. Wow what memories this thread has brought back, thanks. ah
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 30 Sep 2006 5:56 pm
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| Alan:There was a great steel player up here in Anchorage that went by the name "Chief" also a native american,He worked on the north slope,but passed away maybe a year ago? |
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 1 Oct 2006 5:35 am
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Alan, there was an Indian guy who played lead guitar around the Ventura County area for a good while who went by the name of "Chief Big". He was given that handle by Fred Maddox. He played a lot in the Oxnard area, most notably at the Club Vegas with Speedy Price on steel. I don't know if he played steel himself or not but it might be the same guy. I think his real name was Roy Peters, but I'm not sure....JH in Va.
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Jason Odd
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Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 1 Oct 2006 7:21 am
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most of the old regulars have seen these before, but some shots from the West Coast circa 1964. http://www.acetipton.net/local47.html
Steel players include Blackie Taylor, Billy Tonnesson and perhaps Carl Walden. |
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Darryl Hattenhauer
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Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 1 Oct 2006 4:08 pm
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| Vance Terry. First steel I ever heard, early 50s with Billy Jack Wills and Jimmie Rivers. A real genius and an original. I trust he has found the peace that so tragically eluded him in his last years. |
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John Daugherty
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Rolla, Missouri, USA
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Posted 2 Oct 2006 3:43 am
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Scott, thanks for the Bobby Austin link. I played steel for Bobby at Georges Roundup (1961). George fired Bobby "because his voice was too smooth for country music". He then hired a "so called singer" who was a native american who used the name "Paul Littlechief". I was very disappointed because I loved Bobby's voice and he was a great guy to work with.
My favorite Bobby Austin song was not mentioned in the obits. It is "Castle Of Love".
BTW, Jason, if you are taking notes, Littlechief was later replaced with "Ronny Wheaton" (around Dec.1961)
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Ric Epperle
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Sheridan, Wyoming USA . Like no other place on Earth... R.I.P.
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Posted 3 Oct 2006 4:20 am
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Maybe somebody remembers this guy.. Dad played with Billy Jack Wills at Will's Point in Sacramento in the mid 50's and later on with Truitt Cunningham and the Red Garter Trio for a spell, and then worked with the likes of Jack Loyld who played clarinet with Bob Wills and the group.L ater on, Bud Duncan, who was mentioned earlier in this thread, Chuck and Norma Bell, the list goes on for miles...
They called him big Geno, or just Geno back in those days... He played a lot on an old Fender Stringmaster and later went to a Fender 1000, a Sho Bud and on to the MSA you see in this photo... Maybe you West Coast boys have heard of him.. 
[This message was edited by Ric Epperle on 04 October 2006 at 03:04 AM.] |
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Jason Odd
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Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 4 Nov 2006 5:16 am
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weeeeeeelll... I'm back.
no-one would know this, but just before this topic ended I got PC wiped again, I've had a long going dance this year with both of my computers going down twice, in the end I had to wipe my main one, after it lost all my current emails and email drafts, some rough notes (that I'd lazily ony done as email drafts rather than word files), and everything else slipped by.
Note that I've lost my email program twice in three months, once to a virus that imbedded after my original I.T. guys missed it during some routine work. nice one guys, the next was when my drive crashed.
I also took some time off to help my lady set up an office-showroom workspace shopfront, we did all the shopfittings outselves.
Now during this period all my research files and notes were backed to disc, and for the most part everything I had was saved, in fact I just got my main PC back today from a good buddy who took over from my I.T. guys who are just too overworked to give me the loving attention to detail that I needed.
So why the big post, well even though I've been online of late, I've just not had to time to go back and catch up with everyone, I'm still catching up with everyone I missed in the downtime and working out what I had lost. (only a little, but enough to be a pain)
Johnny Dee for Daugherty, I have been taking notes, and there's a few folks I'll be trying to contact.
I have a tribute page to finish for Red Rhodes and the Palomino Club, I did indeed write a piece on the West Coast Playboys, previously linked by Scott Wehmeyer.
Scott, I hadn't saved your emails to my word files, so I lost all our communication, but I do have all the pics you kindly scanned and emailed, I can't recall what I might have sent you already though. Drop me a line, there were some other things I wanted to send you.
I have done some other pieces for the Rockabilly Hall Of Fame, most are outdated in some respects, but still serve their purpose.
www.talentondisplay.com/BobbyAustin.html
(this is a different page for Bobby Austin.)
www.rockabillyhall.com/DennisPayne1.html
www.rockabillyhall.com/JimPierce1.html
www.rockabillyhall.com/RonnieSessions.html
(a certain county museum corrected some timeline errors on their Sessions page a little while after this one went up)
Ric Epperle, I have heard of your father, there used to be a tribute website to Truitt that actually mentioned him, but I suspect it's long gone as I couldn't find anything today.
phew, it's good to be back.
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J. Dean Mooney
From:
Malvern, Ar
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Posted 4 Nov 2006 5:47 am
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| Mike I read your post about Roy Counts. |
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J. Dean Mooney
From:
Malvern, Ar
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Posted 4 Nov 2006 5:35 pm
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Mike I will try this again. Several years ago I met A Roy Counts from Hot Springs that came from Calif; He played 6 string guitar. If it's the same guy he Passed away sometimes in the 80;s. Don't know if this helps you are not.
J. Dean Mooney |
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Bob Simmons
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Trafford, Alabama, USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2006 8:27 pm
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| hey, don't forget the great Speedy West worked a lot out there. I first met him where he was working a shopping center grand opening with Cliffy Stone or somebody! We became friends til he passed. |
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Bob Simmons
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Trafford, Alabama, USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2006 8:29 pm
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| hey, don't forget the great Speedy West worked a lot out there. I first met him where he was working a shopping center grand opening with Cliffy Stone or somebody! We became friends til he passed. |
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Alan Harrison
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Murfreesboro Tennessee, USA
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Posted 7 Nov 2006 10:45 am
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| This post is in regard to an earlier one. I had an e-mail from my frind Larry Petre in Bakersfield with information about the Native American who played in the Oxnard, Ventura area back in the 60's and 70's. His last name was Flores, and he went by the name "Geronimo". Does anyone else remember him? |
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Roy McKinney
From:
Ontario, OR
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Posted 7 Nov 2006 6:11 pm
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| I lived in Oxnard/Port Heneme from the mid 60's until 1995. The only steel player I can remember from the 60's time frame played at the Vegas Club on a ZB. Don't remember his name. |
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Jim Bob Sedgwick
From:
Clinton, Missouri USA
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Posted 7 Nov 2006 9:37 pm
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For John Daugherty (aka Johnny Dee). Did you have a good friend, Steel and Bass player, Bobby Boydd? He and I were like brothers until he died. We used to work for Danny Michaels at the Roundup in the late sixties. ( Wasn't George Underwood a kick in the head?)) Drop me an email if you like.  |
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 8 Nov 2006 8:11 am
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Roy........would that have been Don Robinson? He was a great player in that time frame who played at the Crow's Nest for a good while and later at the Club Vegas..........JH in Va.
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Phillip Lee Thompson
From:
Canby, Oregon
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Posted 8 Nov 2006 10:11 am
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Jerry,
I believe Speedy West,gone now for many years, played the west coast back in the fifties if not sooner. And my old teacher
from Houston Texas,Herb Remington, played some gigs out there also. Phillip.
Hey Bob,did not catch your post before I posted mine. Yes Speedy was a Great One.[This message was edited by Phillip Lee Thompson on 08 November 2006 at 10:15 AM.] |
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Bill Flores
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Ventura, California, USA
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Posted 8 Nov 2006 2:45 pm
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| My dad, also named Bill Flores, played non- pedal steel in the Ventura County area in the late 40,s and the 50's. He knew Hank "Geronimo" but I don't remember if his name was Flores also.Dad played at most of the Ventura/Oxnard/Santa Paula clubs including Okies in Foster Park and Fred Maddox's "King of the Bass" club in Ventura.My dad never made the switch to pedals so by the 60's he was mostly paying Polynesian music since there is a substantial Pacific Island community in the area. I recognize some of the names mentioned in this topic but I was bit young when Dad was playing the "Western" scene.Also did anyone mention Frank Hardcastle?, steeler who played at the Carousel club in Oxnard in the late 60's. Thanks Bill |
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