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Posted: 8 Nov 2004 1:18 pm
by b0b
<SMALL>It was evident my posts weren't taken seriously because later Bobby Lee posts, "It's my understanding that Julian Tharpe has never been nominated."</SMALL>
My understanding was based on Bill Hatcher's original post in this topic, and on Tom Bradshaw's followup comment that
<SMALL>Julian Tharpe has never been "formally" nominated. That requires documentation of his accomplishments and contributions as detailed on the HOF's web site.</SMALL>

I have no direct knowledge of SGHOF deliberations. I only know what I read here on the Forum. I apologize for jumping to conclusions, Fred. Would it be possible for you to post your nomination here?

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Posted: 8 Nov 2004 1:21 pm
by Fred Shannon
b0b, it certainly will, I have it archived on another computer, but I will gladly post it for everyone to see. thanks for asking, I wouldn't have suggested it.
fred

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The spirit be with you!
If it aint got a steel, it aint real



Posted: 8 Nov 2004 1:59 pm
by Stuart Basore
I really like the members of the hall of fame, because they (forthe most part) are heroes of mine. How the "Board" determines who will be a member is really no concern of mine. There's a good chance that I will not ever be a part of the "HOF" and I really don't care. I have the credentials (and awards) to show how my peers and the music industry think of me and my ability to play this wonderful instrument and that's (as they say) more than enough for me. What a great feeling, to be able to make a living for years, doing what somone else would do for a hobby! I wish everyone could be as lucky! Best wishes to all. Be cool. STU Image

Posted: 8 Nov 2004 2:27 pm
by Robert Momot
Mr.Stuart Basore in my book you are one of the greats. Robert

Posted: 8 Nov 2004 2:38 pm
by Fred Shannon
b0b, here is the nomination as you requested. I had to find it, convert it to a txt file, cut and paste it to this topic. I'm computer literate enough to do it otherwise. Here it is and thanks for your patience.

February 25, 2003

Subject: Julian Tharpe's Formal Nomination to the Steel Guitar Hall of Fame

Julian, until his tragic demise, had been a long time entrepeneur of the pedal steel guitar. His futuristic innovations both of the tuning and of the physical makeup of the guitar itself are widely known and appreciated.

He played with such recording greats as Ray Price, Barbara Mandrell and many others too numerous to mention. His performances on the psg were mind boggling and culminated with standing ovations on many of his lead rides. One of his appearance with Ray Price in the Astrodome is indicative of his capability. Over 7,000 people stood and applauded his instrumental act there. I witnessed this.

Julian, along with Reece Anderson, was very instrumental in the development of the Universal tuning we now use on pedal steel. Although Reece's tuning is more 'calm', for lack of a better word, than Julian's, one can see the similiarity of the two. That is understandable because of Julian's efforts in the MSA factory and his close friendship with Reece. Julian's tuning and guitar setup included 14 strings and at one time he had 22 pedals on the guitar.

Julian has recorded at least five (5) LP's of which I am aware. They include:
1. Deep Feelings
2. Southern Fried Steel
3. The Jet Age
4. Take Your Pick
5. 12 + 14 = Country Jazz with Zane Beck
These are the only 5 I have, there could possibly be more.

Julian, as an instructor, was very patient with me and others who studied under him in Dallas. I'm certain Billy Phelps and possibly a gent named McHam (sic) were studying at the same time I was there. I don't know how many more students he had. He was an expert in the E9 and C6 tunings, and he was very articulate in the Universal tuning he had developed. I, along with many others, still use a version of that tuning.

Julian was also part of the Branson's Baldknobbers (sic) show in Branson Missouri. It was one of the first theaters that opened in that city. I cannot tell you how long he participated in that show, but he's listed in the lobby as part of the "first casts" that was there.

On March 3, 1976 I attended a Nashville jam session, in which a LP was supposed to be made (I never saw a copy of it) that Jimmy Bryant and others produced. I believe it was called "The First Time". He performed, along with bassist Henry Strzlecki (sic), drummer Louis Bellson, and I believe the sax player was a gentleman named Gore, and the steel players invited included Speedy West, Julian, Day, Hal Rugg, Reece Anderson, L. Green, Chalker, Doug Jernigan, and possibly one other. This was probably the first time that many "name steel players" were ever in one place at one time. When Julian finished his set, every person in the studio stood and applauded. That never happened but the one time. A tribute to a great talent by his peers.

This is my third attempt to have Julian's name placed in nomination for the Steel Guitar Hall of fame and I consider it a privilege to do so. He was an outstanding player, a teacher of the instrument, and provided the steel guitar community another path for tuning possibilities. Although he's passed on, his legacy has left many with fond memories, and thoughtful aspirations. Julian Tharpe, along with many others, belong in the Steel Guitar Hall of Fame. Your consideration is welcomed.

Fred Shannon
6716 East Robinson Rd
Big Spring, Texas, 79720
Tel no--915-263-2213
email: fjshan@crcom.net




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The spirit be with you!
If it aint got a steel, it aint real



Posted: 8 Nov 2004 2:45 pm
by Fred Shannon
Stu Basore is already in several folks' hall of fame including mine. Once anyone has had the privilege of hearing Stu play it's all over.


fred

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The spirit be with you!
If it aint got a steel, it aint real



Posted: 8 Nov 2004 3:13 pm
by Fred Jack
Fred, Not only a great picker but a very nice person ta boot! My good friend Garland Dye put his stamp of approval on Stu many years ago and I have found out why over the years. Regards, Fred

Posted: 8 Nov 2004 4:45 pm
by Robert Momot
Mr.Dave Horner, if MSA NOW has nothing to do with MSA THEN why worry about Mutually Satisfactory Arrangements with people that were screwed. And if the current MSA PRINCIPALS want a place to put $50,000 dollars, how about in the pockets of the people that were cheated 20 plus years ago. Just my opinion.

Posted: 8 Nov 2004 5:07 pm
by b0b
Kindly stay on the Julian Tharpe topic.

Posted: 8 Nov 2004 5:41 pm
by Robert Momot
Mr.Bob I apologize, it won't happen again.

Posted: 8 Nov 2004 5:51 pm
by Tom Bradshaw
Dave Horner: Your proposal is one of the most immature, if not infantile, suggestions I've ever seen posted on this Forum. You have many potential MSA customers wanting to know if you guys are up-front, honest, and forthright businessmen. Then you propose a gambling scheme as your approach to convincing them that you are? I wonder if Richard Nixon would have been a better President if when he said, "I am not a crook," added, "And if no one believes me, put up $50,000 and let's bet on it." It also brings to mind Bill Clinton's statement "I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky." He could have followed up with, "And if you don't believe me, put up $50,000 and we'll see if mine will even fit into hers."

There is no reason in the world that any depositor, who lost thousands of dollars 20-plus years ago, and got double the money back, would be hesitant to tell anyone. If that is all they got, they would most likely still be complaining. They would have derived about half of what they deserved, based on the 40 cents a current dollar is worth against its value in 1980, and the fact that they lost all its earning power for all those years.

The absolute absurdity of your gambling proposal smacks of the tabloid TV show, "Fear Factor." Your proposal is nearly identical. Why didn't you require the loser to eat a bucket of week-old fish entrails, or use vomit after a weekend of binge drinking as a chip dip? And $50,000? That's chump change and insulting. Why not your home against his?

Your verbiage shows some writing skills, but your ideas are sophomoric. Did you complete high school? …Tom

P.S.: Why didn't you ask Janne Lindgren in Sweden for a copy of Anderson's email of a few months ago. You would learn that Reece told that depositor to get on with his life, and under penalty of a lawsuit, not to show that email to anyone. Also, drop Gary Dirks in Redding, California a note. Ask to see Anderson's reply to Dirks' attorney of 20+ years ago as to why his deposit money would not be refunded. These are two of my closest friends. If they had gotten anything I'd be the first to know. I believe Molberg has provided you with their addresses. You know, I'm beginning to believe that you are as bad of a gambler as you are a spokesman for MSA.

Posted: 8 Nov 2004 6:04 pm
by Fred Shannon
Yessir, right on topic, and with all that I still think Julian should be in everybody's hall of fame, including the one in the basement in St Louis. Image Image

fred

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The spirit be with you!
If it aint got a steel, it aint real



Posted: 8 Nov 2004 6:33 pm
by Jim Phelps
forget it.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 08 November 2004 at 06:51 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 8 Nov 2004 6:58 pm
by b0b
I give up. Topic closed! Image