CHIP FOSSA wrote:
It was an extremely exciting and unique musical time. Nothing was left to chance. Anything was valid. And much of it took hold and worked.
Yep but I also add
EVERYTHING was left to chance. Everything was valid.
Prior to Hippie was hipster and Hip
Online Etymology Dictionary
Hippie
c.1965, Amer.Eng. (Haight-Ashbury slang),
from earlier hippie, 1953,
usually a disparaging variant of hipster (1941)
"person who is keenly aware of the new and stylish,"
from hip "up-to-date" (see hip (adj.)).
Depending on the conservatism of the dictionary we get :
American Heritage Dictionary
hip·pie also hip·py n. pl. hip·pies
A person who opposes and rejects many of the
conventional standards and customs of society,
especially one who advocates extreme liberalism
in sociopolitical attitudes and lifestyles.
and/or
Dictionary.com Unabridged
hip·pie –noun
a person, esp. of the late 1960s, who rejected established institutions and values
and sought spontaneity, direct personal relations
expressing love, and expanded consciousness,
often expressed externally in the wearing of casual,
folksy clothing and of beads, headbands, used garments, etc.
[Origin: 1950–55, Americanism; hip + -ie]
And
flower child –noun
(esp. in the 1960s) a young person, esp. a hippie,
rejecting conventional society and advocating love,
peace, and simple, idealistic values.
[Origin: 1965–70, Americanism; from the conventional image
of such people as carrying and distributing flowers]
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, ©
And
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source -
flower child n. Informal
A hippie, especially one
advocating universal peace and love
as antidotes to social or political ills.
[From the custom of carrying or wearing flowers to symbolize peace and love.]
Seems the old guard saw the rejection,
and never bothered to see the positive aspects at all.
And STILL 40 years later resent that rejection
of some of their values,enough to reject ALL music
relating to ANYTHING hippie...
I suppose it must have hurt to have so many young people explicitly say,
we disagree with these core beliefs of yours, TOUGH!
On the otherhand what was gained over the years?
It appears MUCH.
Earliest origins of the terms
hip
Pronunciation adjective, hip·per, hip·pest, noun, verb, hipped, hip·ping. Slang.
–adjective
1. familiar with or informed about the latest ideas, styles, developments, etc.:
My parents aren't exactly hip, you know.
2.
considered aware of or attuned to what is expected, esp. with a casual or knowing air; cool:
The guy was not at all hip—a total nerd.
3.
in agreement or willing to cooperate; going along:
We explained our whole plan, and she was hip.
–noun
4. Also, hipness. the condition or state of being hip.
5. a hipster or hippie.
–verb (used with object)
6.
to make or keep aware or informed.
Also, hep.
[
Origin: 1900–05; earlier hep; of disputed orig.]
Random House Unabridged Dictionary,
Now HEP this is much older
and more troubling too...
hep (1)
"aware, up-to-date," first recorded
1908 in "Saturday Evening Post,"
but said to be underworld slang, of unknown origin.
Variously said to have been the name of
"a fabulous detective who operated in Cincinnati"
or a saloonkeeper in Chicago who
"never quite understood what was going on ...
(but) thought he did."
Taken up by jazz musicians by 1915;
hepcat "addict of swing music" is from 1938.
Online Etymology Dictionary
hep (2)
cry of those leading pogroms or attacks on Jews in Europe, 1839
(but in ref. to the riots of 1819 in Hamburg, etc.),
perhaps the cry of a goatherd,
or of a hunter urging on dogs,
but popularly said to be acronym of L.
Hierosolyma Est Perdita "Jerusalem is destroyed."
I MUCH prefer addicted to swing music...
So hippie's origins go back to Scot Joplin's days of early jazz,
it just got twisted again in the 60's by, of course, the media.
If granddad was a hipster that was up to date and informed,
if grandson was a hippie he should never be forgiven EVER.
My how things change.
When I was young I used to race a Beetlecat boat called Hepcat.
