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Posted: 5 Mar 2016 8:17 am
by Tom Quinn
David, I have NO idea what the heck you JUST posted! But I hope it makes SENSE to someone. And I don't know EXACTLY what you mean by ... well pretty MUCH everything above. But have a great day. And it's God, not god... just so ya know.

Posted: 5 Mar 2016 9:04 am
by Barry Blackwood
David, I have NO idea what the heck you JUST posted! But I hope it makes SENSE to someone. And I don't know EXACTLY what you mean by ... well pretty MUCH everything above.
It is what it is, Tom, day after day after Jimmy Day....

Posted: 5 Mar 2016 9:08 am
by Tom Quinn
Barry Blackwood wrote:
David, I have NO idea what the heck you JUST posted! But I hope it makes SENSE to someone. And I don't know EXACTLY what you mean by ... well pretty MUCH everything above.
It is what it is, Tom, day after day after Jimmy Day....
-LLL-

Posted: 5 Mar 2016 9:26 am
by chris ivey
day...ohh..........day--ay--ay--ay----ohhhh
daylight come an me wanna go ho-ohhmm.....

Posted: 5 Mar 2016 9:45 am
by Barry Blackwood
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Posted: 5 Mar 2016 10:15 am
by Tom Quinn
Barry Blackwood wrote:Image
Yeah, that...

Posted: 5 Mar 2016 1:05 pm
by Rick Collins
The pedal steel is more popular and more versatile than the pedal harp. :D

Playing country music on pedal steel (although I play it) is not my favorite kind of music __ the "modern country" even less my favorite.
Always, I have thought the once popular E9 sound could get boring quickly, even though some very talented musicians have accomplished some amazing things with the sound.

My non-pedal eight string guitars are my favorite to play and I like listening to a non-pedal player (if they have any talent at all) more than pedal players.

The question arises, today would the steel guitar be more widely accepted if pedals had never been added?

Posted: 5 Mar 2016 1:39 pm
by chris ivey
no!

Posted: 5 Mar 2016 2:07 pm
by Barry Blackwood
Double no.

Posted: 6 Mar 2016 11:12 am
by Alan Brookes
That's like asking whether the bugle would be more popular if no-one had put a slide on it and invented the trombone. Both instruments are now used. When you invent new instruments you don't scrap all the old ones.

Posted: 6 Mar 2016 11:51 am
by Rick Collins
Alan Brookes wrote:That's like asking whether the bugle would be more popular if no-one had put a slide on it and invented the trombone. Both instruments are now used. When you invent new instruments you don't scrap all the old ones.
Well, would it Alan? Would a bugle be more popular if no one put a slide on it?
Apparently it would still be popular with the military __ it is.

I've never scraped a pedal steel nor a non-pedal steel. I play both and own both.
I just happen to like a non-pedal guitar better. And, I have a feeling I'm not alone.

Posted: 6 Mar 2016 12:51 pm
by richard burton
The pedal steel was born in a simpler time, there was no wi-fi, 4G, Social Media etc to occupy the waking hours in the 1950's/1980's, so time could be devoted to learning how to play it.
There's no time now for pursuits like PSG

Posted: 6 Mar 2016 2:14 pm
by Alan Brookes
Richard Burton wrote:...There's no time now for pursuits like PSG
Especially if we spend hours on the internet. :lol:

Posted: 6 Mar 2016 5:34 pm
by Wally Moyers
All you really need is some new exciting music that will inspire the young musicians to learn the instrument.. If someone has the burning desire to learn to play, they will do it.. With the internet these days there is more instruction available at your finger tips than I had access to during my whole playing career... I challenge the players out there to set down and write some new original steel music. Produce or have it produced professionally and get it out there.. With the internet its easier than ever to get it out there.. I don't care what the style is, jazz, rock, blues, pop, new country, old country, Texas country, country rock, Hip Hop, just something new... If we set around and depend on someone else to do it the instrument will die.. In the process new artist and producers will hear what can be done.. I'll add that there are some great players around the country already in the process of doing it.. Also, if your going to a steel show take a young musician with you and expose them to the instrument.. Next week in Dallas there will be some some of the finest players in the world playing. I promise you that JayDee or Buck Reid or Mike Johnson and many more will make them want to play because they will be doing their own thing.. These days radio does not totally control what music is popular, the box we're typing on has more great music and great steel playing available in it via the internet than all the radio stations in the world.. A lot of the great playing is country but a lot of it is something else.. Also we need to be more accepting to new steel music and support their effort.. On Facebook the other day I saw some steel players tear Susan Alcorn to shreds over her music and I heard it happened here too.. I assure you that whats she's doing is very complicated and musical. Not everyone will like it but it is to be respected... Sorry for the rant but thats my two cents...

Wow...

Posted: 7 Mar 2016 6:57 am
by Dick Sexton
There are some lucky young beginning steel players, that live near this gentleman, that won't have to drudge through Red River Valley to get to something they really want to play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4WS2lAKjpo&sns=fb

Thank you Wally, this is great. I'm posting it on my facebook page, so my grandkids can be exposed to it...

Keep um coming...

Posted: 8 Mar 2016 5:57 am
by Jason King
WOW! That was a awesome Wally. Your band is tight to say the least. Thanks

Posted: 8 Mar 2016 6:20 am
by Charlie McDonald
That is tight, Wally.

I don't know what to think about any of this.
It reminds me of polls with agendas in the middle of them, a thesis put forward that hasn't been proven, rushing to a conclusion.

I could say that steel guitar is more popular than ever and I imagine it's so from the standpoint of numbers of players.

The death of steel guitar has been vastly overstated.

Posted: 8 Mar 2016 12:23 pm
by Ed Boyd
Just for the fun of it I will blame Bro Country.

Posted: 8 Mar 2016 12:46 pm
by Jamie Mitchell
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Posted: 8 Mar 2016 1:26 pm
by Wally Moyers
Check this out.. Pedal steel can fit anywhere if it's played to fit the music..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OLN4U40R8rg

Posted: 8 Mar 2016 1:43 pm
by Steve Pawlak
No S@#T Walley
That's an excellent band and vibe you got goin' there

Posted: 9 Mar 2016 11:15 am
by Rich Peterson
Wally, that is fine playing.

I think pedal steel can not only cover string section parts but also horn parts. Years ago I replaced (under arm guitar) the keyboardist in a country band. Donny Saxton had been covering all the guitar parts on his Sho-Bud. With me there to play guitar, he switched to covering all the keyboard lines. It ain't what you play it on; it's what you play on it.

Posted: 9 Mar 2016 12:46 pm
by David Mitchell
I think as time goes on the world will see less and less pedal steel guitar players simply because it is no longer a lead instrument that fills the airwaves. Not as much as attraction to the instrument as the young folks of yesteryear when Green, Drake, Emmons, Brumley, Huey, etc. ruled the mainstream airwaves. At the same time however I think there will be more pedal steel guitars built than ever before simply because all the baby boomers like me that fell in love with the pedal steel now have money to buy them. And buy them we will!!!

Posted: 9 Mar 2016 4:16 pm
by chris ivey
so you're saying there will be fewer players but more owners?
the airwaves were filled by a dozen or so players back then.
it'll only take another dozen to fill the airwaves again when the time is right.

of course i always felt that there should be a law that artists be required to record only with their
employed road bands.
wouldn't that be interesting?

Posted: 9 Mar 2016 4:26 pm
by Alan Brookes
As long as the world population keeps growing there will always be enthusiasts for every instrument. For instance, one always thinks of the golden age of the lute as being the 16th-17th centuries, and of the harpsichord as the 18th century, but there are actually more lute and harpsichord players out there now than there have ever been. What's more, whereas in their golden ages only a few people got to hear them, now anyone can hear them or see them on the internet, at no cost at all.

The pedal steel guitar will NEVER disappear.