Teach your children wrong?

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 17 Jul 2014 6:46 pm

b0b wrote:which one is the steel player?

The one they left out of the picture.

Daniel Policarpo · Post by **Daniel Policarpo** » 18 Jul 2014 3:43 am

Richard Sinkler wrote:
b0b wrote:which one is the steel player?
The one they left out of the picture.

Getting back to Neil's memory, he did have major brain surgery for a brain aneurysm a few years back. Neil trusted Keith's musical sense implicitly. Perhaps the only other musician he extended that kind of respect, so you know he has a high love for the pedal steel. Garcia + Young= history as an exercise in malleability. Like whatever, man.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 18 Jul 2014 4:54 am

Occasional memory problems seem common in folks as they get older, so I guess the best advice is that if you want to write a really accurate accounting of your life's story, you should do it while you're young.

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 18 Jul 2014 6:30 am

Occasional memory problems seem common in folks as they get older, so I guess the best advice is that if you want to write a really accurate accounting of your life's story, you should do it while you're young.

Neil Young that isâ€¦

admin · Post by **b0b** » 18 Jul 2014 8:19 am

Neil's authorized biography "Shakey" is a very good read. Lots of interesting facts there. The guy's an asshole but I still have a lot of respect for him as an artist.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 18 Jul 2014 8:23 am

Never really cared for Neil young. But he does deserve my respect as a famous musician. The only song I liked of his, was "Helpless". But Joe Goldmark posted a version he did with a female singer that, to me, outshines Young,s version.

Mark Eaton · Post by **Mark Eaton** » 18 Jul 2014 8:33 am

Whatever one's perception of Neil as a person is aside, when it comes to his music it seems the vast majority of people are either for him, or against him. A thick "polarizing" line in the middle. Not a lot of folks that can either take him or leave him.

I've been for him since the beginning, though he has done plenty of things musically over the decades which have left me scratching my head - "what the heck was that?

But for sitting around on my sofa strumming my Martin and singing songs or jamming with a couple folks, I do a lot of Neil Young tunes.

I enjoy Joe's version of Helpless with Brandi Shearer on the vocal as well.

admin · Post by **b0b** » 18 Jul 2014 8:44 am

Neil has good ideas and bad ideas, great ideas and horrible ideas. He follows up on all of them. I don't know who buys all of his crap. I have a close friend who's a rabid fan and even he can't watch that horrible movie from a few years back. The concert film from the Ryman is worth watching just to hear Hank's old guitar and Ben's immaculately restrained steel parts. Plus, it's a real love fest. Neil never fakes anything.

Mark Eaton · Post by **Mark Eaton** » 18 Jul 2014 9:20 am

Neil follows up on ideas, but sometimes, if he's done with them for whatever reason, he'll drop 'em like a hot rock.

A few of us here attended one of the two Buffalo Springfield reunion concerts in Oakland three years ago, there were a total of four shows. The other two took place in Santa Barbara and at the Bonnaroo Festival in Tennessee. This was after the acoustic appearance the previous fall at the annual Bridge School Benefit in the Bay Area in Mountain View.

After these Springfield shows the guys seemed pretty excited, Richie Furay in particular, and there were plans in the works for a 30 city extended tour.

Then one morning Neil woke up and I guess after his first cup of coffee he changed his mind, and that was the end of that - no more tour.

Les Cargill · Post by **Les Cargill** » 19 Jul 2014 12:20 pm

b0b wrote:Neil has good ideas and bad ideas, great ideas and horrible ideas. He follows up on all of them. I don't know who buys all of his crap. I have a close friend who's a rabid fan and even he can't watch that horrible movie from a few years back.

"Year of the Horse"? You either like the Crazy Horse stuff or you don't.

The concert film from the Ryman is worth watching just to hear Hank's old guitar and Ben's immaculately restrained steel parts. Plus, it's a real love fest. Neil never fakes anything.

There's just something about the Ditch Trilogy ( "Time Fades Away", "On The Beach" and "Tonight's The Night" ) that's some sort of ... distilled ... essence. For whatever reason, Ben Keith played his best (IMO, said out of vastly under-sampled ignorance ) stuff on those records. Ben Keith's sound on those records is mainly what made me want to play steel.

Plus one on the book "Shakey"; it's the work of a mildly obsessed super-fan.

admin · Post by **b0b** » 19 Jul 2014 6:47 pm

The movie I'm talking about was called "Greendale". I saw about 10 minutes of it on TV. Really bad.

Bud Angelotti · Post by **Bud Angelotti** » 20 Jul 2014 3:55 am

I would agree Bob. I wasn't a very well made movie for general entertainment. IMHOP, it was a politcal statement, & since you don't want politics discussed on your forum, I won't go there except to quote Neil.

"Four dead in Ohio."
"Look at mother nature on the run in the 1970's."

Your steel friend, Bud

Mickey Adams · Post by **Mickey Adams** » 20 Jul 2014 10:31 am

A VERY close friend of mine was in Neils band for 20+ years.....I wouldn't put too much faith in anything he was quoted as saying...half the time the man doesn't know what city he's in...TYC was most definitely...PEDAL steel guitar...I heard it was recorded from a Blackface Princeton Reverb.