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Hans Penner wrote:Marc, Ron did not send the PM.
A forum member did this at the request of Ron !.
*bold highlights mine.Hans Penner wrote:Marc, I have not made my email address available anywhere on the forum.
He contacted me because a forum member supplied him with my email address.
He also wanted me to "go to the forum member list and supply him with another "Newbees" email address."
That is the primary reason I use a third party company for my "contact me" form on my website (and the fact that I don't have to write the form handler program in PHP to put on the server to handle forms information and email it to me). The form goes to this company when you hit the submit button, and then they forward the info to me at the email address I give them to send it too. The person filling out the form never sees my email address (which is one I have with my web host account and it forwards to my regular account. That way, if the one for the website gets hacked or anything, I just delete it and set up a new one and my regular email account is not affected). The only way they get my email is if I respond to them, which I normally do through my website email - unless I know them - again protecting my regular email address from them. It's really dumb to put your email address on your website (because it can be harvested) or to use the "email me" stuff in html that activates the persons email client and puts your email address in for them, making it visible to them, and much worse, they can now add it to their address book. If that doesn't bother you, then keep putting your email address on your site, or at least give them access to it. Me, I prefer to use an outside source to process my forms, and it costs me nothing. The company even has a form designer that lets you design your form online.Peter den Hartogh wrote:Lots of members have web presence like a website, facebook, myspace, youtube, cdbaby, their own product, etc.
Often you can find their email address right there.
I just did one test only and BINGO!, I got the email address straight away.
I clicked on Jim Cohen's WWW button and went to his website.
I then clicked CONTACT JIM and hey presto!! there is his address in my email pop up window.
Say no more. No hacking required.
I think this forum is more secure than some of you guys realize.
Steve English wrote:Any good con man will keep a few patsys in his pocket for his "good" references. This one's certainly got a few on the Steel Guitar Forum.Shame on those of you who are smart enough to know that you're most likely purchasing someone else's intellectual or copy-written property. And for those of you who are ignorant, it might be in your best interest to wise up, or, at the very least, run the risk of being the fool that's separated from his money.
The fact that he has repeatedly used fraudulent practices in order to sell product via the internet is well documented by myself, and many others on this and several other forums. These are not allegations, they are documented facts.
The scumbag has been threatening to sue people for exposing his fraudulent activities for years. The man's an idiot and obviously doesn't understand what constitutes slander and/or libel. He thrives on attempts of intimidation and scare tactics when confronted with his cons and frauds. There's a sucker born every minute, and there will always be scumbags like him to take advantage of them.
Education and information are our best deterrents to these types of unscrupulous shysters. This Forum, and our communications provides us with the necessary resources to recognize these types of crooks and their supporters.
Don't let the liars and cons stop any of you from reporting the truth. If anyone wants to forward the threatening emails that they have received from this crook,I'd be privileged to add them to my files. This douche is not going away. He'll just keep preying on the newer members and the unsuspecting.
b0b, please add this idiot's name to the sticky of who not to do business with! He's worst than all the others listed combined.
To our most notable con and fraud: Sue me you
WPOS.
Well said. At the end of the day, these characters wouldn't exist without customers. At least the forum is making everyone aware of this issue. If people choose to buy pirated copies then there is little practical control available. In the long run, they are deterring players from funding new products with scammers like this about.b0b wrote:Some people see piracy as a victimless crime. The market for CDs has shrunk to a small fraction of what is was ten years ago, thanks to digital sharing and unscrupulous traders who rip entire collections for resale. Legitimate CD dealers (including yours truly) are left holding the bag with large inventories of unsold products on their shelves.
Is it a scam? I'm not one to say, but I do find it immoral. The fact that someone lies about his name tells me that he knows it's wrong, too.
You get what you pay for, and in this case it's a diminished market for legitimate products. Support your favorite steel players by buying their products directly from them, not from some shady internet character who has made "backup copies".
But you don't have to respond via e-mail! Respond via the PM (private messaging) service on the forum, and your e-mail stays private.Maybe I can explain my point better: Say you advertise a guitar for sale. I respond to your ad via your forum email link. You now have my email address.
I never, ever, ever, want to deal with a lawyer again....The scumbag has been threatening to sue people for exposing his fraudulent activities for years. The man's an idiot and obviously doesn't understand what constitutes slander and/or libel. He thrives on attempts of intimidation and scare tactics when confronted with his cons and frauds. There's a sucker born every minute, and there will always be scumbags like him to take advantage of them.
